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beater backhoe advice

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment' started by t.i.b, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. t.i.b

    t.i.b Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    I'm in the market for a machine to do some land clearing at my house and am going to look at a 197? ford 4500 tomorrow. does anyone have any advice as to what to look/listen for in a tractor like this? any specific things with the hydraulics, aside from do they work? also its a diesel any tips for checking that? I don't have any real knowledge of diesel motors. I know that there will be issues with any machine this old but id like to try to spot any major issues before shelling out the doe. Thanks
  2. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,980

    warm up the machine and make sure the loader and hoe can both raise the machine, diesel will be cheaper to run, look for leaks, cracking on hyd hoses (is the steel braiding showing), how does the clutch feel, (freeplay)
  3. ponyboy

    ponyboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,104

    Pins hiw much play in machine
    Test it out see if machine has any power left or if it feels weak
    After you drive it and test it check whole machine for leaks
    How do the breaks feel
    Make sure you watch it start and that it is cold you want to see it start cold not warmed up
    Look at tires
    Look at all grease points make sure it looks like there is grease there
  4. Mega cab

    Mega cab Member
    Messages: 56

    Get the Vin # and call a dealer to see how easy you can get replacement parts.
  5. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    Watch to see how much it smokes when it's running
  6. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    Lots of great tips. Have you thought about just renting something as needed ? I don't know what your looking to spend but if its just for home use buying seems a bit overkill.
  7. t.i.b

    t.i.b Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    Thanks for all the advice. Ive been clearing trees and filling in my backyard. renting is not really an option cuase I cant devote to much time into this at once, im just kinda picking away at it when I can. So having a machine on hand makes the most sense for me. thanks
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2014
  8. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,224

    For just home use really most machines will do fine diesel will be better. just look for smoke when started any leaking coming from pistons check to see how the hydraulic houses are if they are bad the cost can add up on them. and on the backhoe make sure it's tight with not to much play and make sure you check boom and stick for any cracks .
  9. t.i.b

    t.i.b Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    how much smoke is to much? does the color of the smoke indicate any specific issues like it does in a gas motor? Im assuming there will be some smoke in a machine from the 70's.
  10. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,224

    Probably best way to tell is to take the oil fill cap off and see if there is any blow by smoke coming out usually a white smoke. granted a '70's machine should have a lot of hours on it and if it hasn't had an overhaul all original you will have to expect some. I'm not an expert by any means but when I got my '76 case 580c we got it with a bad engine and that was what was going on a lot of blow by but we pulled the engine and redid it but that was 13K at the time . some times it better to pay a little more and get newer rather than older. but there are a lot of nice older machines out there .