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Ballast question

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by charlg, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. charlg

    charlg Member
    Messages: 53

    I have an 07 2500 HD 'classic' (6.0 / 4:10) with a new Fisher 8' HD. Fisher recommends a 460lb ballast. Do most Chevy owners go by the book, use less weight, or nothing?
  2. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    more weight. figure the ballast just offsets the plow some. now what about traction?
  3. LoneCowboy

    LoneCowboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,760

    I have an 06 2500HD Duramax, they recommend like 700lbs for me (Curtis 8' with wings), I put in 480 and it needs more.
    I just put in timbrens and i hope that helps.
  4. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    To answer your question, I would bet most do nothing. From the start most installers don't supply the ballast. Some do you ask, yup they do. Most guys are using their trucks from this and that and just put on the plow and go. Is it right, is it the best for traction and safety? No it isn't at all. Once you have the proper ballast you'll fell and see the truck just handles much better because it not teetering on the front wheels.It also lets the rear tire do their job. Find a spot indoors if you can for sand bags behind the rear axle, the further back the less you'll need. Timbrins are great for helping the front end on your GM as well because the biggest 4800# torsion bars are still getting close to max 60% rule with all that weight of a plow along with 6.6 Duramax and Allison 1000.
  5. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    I run about 800lbs behind the rear axle and about 600-800lbs on the rear axle as weight for pusing in 2wd. Yaz has got very good points thought.
  6. 06HD BOSS

    06HD BOSS 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,611

    i keep 800 lbs over the axle.
  7. charlg

    charlg Member
    Messages: 53

    Thanks guys for the good advice. I will use fisher's guide and put in close to 500lbs (probably sand bags). Do you take the weight out in between storms?
  8. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    My weight is a fuel transfer tank on the axle so, no that stays in, but I use the fuel so, i guess I take it out slowly. The weight behind the axle, is tractor weights. Those I take out if I am going to drive my truck any distance. I do not drive my tuck to work every day as, I have a company work truck so I don't get to. If you only have around 500lbs, I wouldn't worry about it to much.
  9. mayhem

    mayhem PlowSite.com Addict
    from Peru MA
    Messages: 1,016

    I tend to leave my ballast in the bed all winter long. Even when the plow isn't on there it help the rear wheels bite better.
  10. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,617

    With a good amount of weight you will find it will plow in 2 wheel drive fairly well.
  11. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    I 2nd that!
  12. 99zr2

    99zr2 Senior Member
    Messages: 271

    I don't know the exact weight but I use a plastic tool trunk like you could buy at Walmart. Then I put aprox. 20, 5 gal sand buckets in it. I would hazard to guess that it weighs in at about 800 lbs.
    This year I am going to put it over the axle. I used to put it at the tailgate but it was a pain to put anything in the bed.
    I leave it in all winter to. I also use a company vehicle to travel to work.
  13. PremierLand

    PremierLand PlowSite.com Addict
    from detroit
    Messages: 1,572

    I put about 800-900 lbs over the axle in my 01, last year in my 06 I just put a pallet of 50# bags of salt in the bed, so gradually the ballast amount went down, but I always had about 8-10bags left over per storm so I was fine.

    BTW: turn the t-bars 5-6 turns, and if you want get timbrens for the front and airbags in back.
  14. charlg

    charlg Member
    Messages: 53

    I thought about Timbrens, but you would think a 2500hd could support the plow and a ballast. I did notice that the factory rubber looked almost as tall as a Timbren would be. Do they add something extra with the plow package?
  15. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,246

    I have a 2500HD and I plow in 2 wd drive i would have to say 90% of the time. The truck is more manuevarable and with the weight of the salt in the back there is no need for the 4x4. Saves me also on gas.
  16. swa136

    swa136 Senior Member
    Messages: 149

    Also consider being able to stop your truck when a mom with a mini van full of kids pulls out in front of you. Everyone here is talking traction for GO, don't forget traction for STOPPING! My application only calls for 150 lbs., but I use it, and make sure it's secured too.:salute:
  17. gcsupraman

    gcsupraman Senior Member
    Messages: 110

    I run about 600lbs....much better traction and prevents sagging of the front end with the plow up. I will work w/o ballast....but much better with.
  18. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    DANG, I forgot about that stopping part. :eek: