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Are You Kidding Me>>>the Lake Erie Ice Boom Snapped!!!

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by PetalsandPines, Feb 4, 2003.

  1. PetalsandPines

    PetalsandPines Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    Just when you thought the lake effect snow season was winding down. The fierce windstorm snapped the ice boom on lake erie near Buffalo and hundreds of Square miles of ice is pouring down the river!!! Are you kidding me?? ANY OTHER LOCAL'S JAWS DROPPING TO THE FLOOR ON THIS ONE?? DOES THIS MEAN THE LAKE EFFECT MACHINE FIRES BACK UP FOR WESTERN NEW YORK??? AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!:mad:

    CARDOCTOR PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,312

    being from the east part of the state


    CARDOCTOR:confused: :confused:
  3. PetalsandPines

    PetalsandPines Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    The Story

    Tuesday, February 04, 2003


    It happened just before noon. Hundreds of square miles of solid ice, pushed by fierce winter winds, created a force so strong, even the steel pontoons making up the ice boom between the U.S. and Canada couldn't bear the weight.

    Finally, they gave way, sending huge chunks of ice and broken pontoons floating, speeding, actually, down the Niagara River.

    "I immediately thought of any ice fishermen who might have ventured out there," said Jack Sniderhan, City of Buffalo Disaster Coordinator. "With this movement of ice ... it would cause an unsafe environment."

    Ice fishermen aren't the only concern. The huge chunks of ice can block water and power intakes for the hydropower plant miles downstream.

    Neither the Coast Guard, Power Authority, nor the Army Corps of Engineers were able to physically get out there to take a closer look; the fierce wind and ice makes it extremely dangerous, even for them.

    Property owners along the Niagara River need to keep an eye out. Huge chunks of ice can rip a dock out and send it downstream.
  4. PetalsandPines

    PetalsandPines Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    They string this thing up between US & Canada, to prevent the constant flow of ice chunks down the river (prevents damage to niagara falls power plants) It also creates a damming effect on the lake and helps damn up the ice when the lake freezes...When it warms up in the spring, they let it go and the lake ice flows down to lake ontario. With the boom being busted...the lake ice is now emptying & flowing down the river exposing the water for renewed lake effect snow!!!
  5. BigRedBarn

    BigRedBarn Senior Member
    Messages: 133

    Haven't heard this on the news yet. I just hope this doesn't cause any property damage for people on the river.

    I also hope it doesn't cause any damage to the power generating station. We had a power outage here in Elma today. I assume it's not connected.

    As far as I know most of that nice cheap power goes downstate instead of creating more jobs here in WNY. Just a pet peeve.

    I've always wondered how that flimsy log & chain boom held back all that ice. There's gotta be some serious power there. Now we know the boom isn't all that well designed after all.

    So, who's going to pay for the boom repair and for any damage caused by the boom breaking? The piker downstaters who get all that cheap power? Yeah, right.
  6. digger242j

    digger242j Senior Member
    Messages: 672

    So, PetalsandPines, I guess you have more seasonals than per push accounts? Or are you just scared of lake effect after last year?
  7. PetalsandPines

    PetalsandPines Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    Both....More seasonals....And I am sick of the unpredictable nature of the snow... Another plus of a frozen lake....More Sunny days!
  8. Grshppr

    Grshppr Senior Member
    Messages: 268

    Complaining about the chance of lots more snow???:eek: I'd love to have that problem out here. We've had 3 plowable storms all year.
  9. Earthscapes

    Earthscapes Senior Member
    from WNY
    Messages: 577

    Big Red "As far as I know most of that nice cheap power goes downstate instead of creating more jobs here in WNY. Just a pet peeve."

    Niagara is the biggest electricity producer in New York State, generating 2.4 million kilowatts—enough power to light 24 million 100-watt bulbs at once! This low-cost electricity saves the state's residents and businesses hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

    Heres something alot of people don't know, the power goes to 12 states and parts of Canada. Plus it's on the top of the list in NY state for terrorism.

    P&P I agree with you NO more snow......i'm waiting to landscape again
  10. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    I guess they want the homeowners out there to watch the destruction! What else are they gonna do?
  11. finnegan

    finnegan Senior Member
    Messages: 313

    i saw it let loose from my front porch and all i could do was :)
  12. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    Petals & Earthscapes!! :nono: :nono:

    Report to my office immediately after school! You have been given Plowsite detention for your blasphemous comments!! Go to the chalk board and write " Let it snow" 100 times. After you have apologized to Ole Man Winter you can rejoin us here.

  13. Got Grass?

    Got Grass? Senior Member
    Messages: 641

    Link to the power authority:

    They do have a few ice breaker tugs along with other measures including water level controls in place in case something like this happened. No need to worry about the power going out.

    Seasional contracts are about the only thing people will sign arround here, with the crazy weather we can get. Just like an insurance policy.
  14. mulchmonkey2000

    mulchmonkey2000 Senior Member
    Messages: 106

    :eek: I was thinking the same thing
  15. Got Grass?

    Got Grass? Senior Member
    Messages: 641

    HAHA, Take the snow.
    W/ seasonal contracts the less snow the better.

    I know I'd rather have 7ft of snow at once then nothing the rest of the year. Over 3" every day for the entire season.
  16. PetalsandPines

    PetalsandPines Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    I thought the lake was frozen

    Weren't these knucklehead forecasters saying last week that Lake erie was frozen...Did anyone ever physically fly over the lake and look at it...WHY DID WE JUST GET 3 " OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW OFF OF A FROZEN LAKE!!!AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!:mad:
  17. Earthscapes

    Earthscapes Senior Member
    from WNY
    Messages: 577

    P&P not to make you sound stupid, but didn't you just answer your last post,,in your first post ? Ummmm if the ice boom broke don't you think the Lake is NOT 100% frozen anymore ??
  18. Got Grass?

    Got Grass? Senior Member
    Messages: 641

    lol I just can't help but to laugh at your responce....
  19. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    LOL I'm glad you guys said something. I was trying to figure out what I missed, since I'm not from there I figured maybe there was something I don't know about that was lost on me in the explanation. P&P, I can see we're going to end up having to send you to the Principal's Office pretty soon with that bad snow attitude ;) Detention didn't work obviously. I think P&P is just suffering from a different kind of mid winter stir craziness than GG and Earthscapes. Posting answers before the questions is another symptom of the mid winter boredom of living over there I think. :D
  20. Roger Dodger

    Roger Dodger Senior Member
    from nw Pa.
    Messages: 240

    Re: I thought the lake was frozen

    It never was completely frozen... I saw it myself from a distance up high on I-90. You could see the shores of Canada and strips of blue water. Perhaps frozen enough though to not mix in lake moisture from a meteorologists standpoint?

    I remember hearing stories from years back of people walking and snowmobiling across the ice to Canada. The most dangerous areas are the ice dunes along the shoreline.

    If I ever hope to "walk on water" this will be the only way I know of!!