Anyone plow with dial shift instead of column shifter?

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by roket77, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. roket77

    roket77 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    New Ram has dial shift on their 8 speed trans instead of column shifter. Has anyone used one for plowing? I hated to go that route with dial shifter but went that way anyways figuring i would get used to it. I liked the mechanical feel of shifting. I feel the dial will cause a slight delay which im sure i'll get used to but after 25+ years of plowing,,,i'm thinking it'll be hard to get used to. Any thoughts? Thank You for help in advance. Mark
     
  2. rizzoa13

    rizzoa13 Senior Member
    Messages: 101

    It’s not a perfect comparison but some of my trucks have push button Allison transmissions and I’d never go back to a column shifter. After 30 hours of plowing I’ve found myself struggling with the column shifter and missing my gears. The push button is idiot and sleep deprivation proof.

    The other big plus is it’s much easier to keep the controller in your hand and push a button than to pull down on a shifter. I don’t know how easy the dial is but that was one of the big pluses for me with the buttons.
     
  3. Hydromaster

    Hydromaster PlowSite Veteran
    from 406
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    Fly by wire .
    An idea

    Get a second gear selection knob
    Then you need a harness extension For it.
    Then mount it right next to or to your plow control .
     
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  4. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 PlowSite Veteran
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    I have only seen the dial on the 1500
     
  5. JP Tank

    JP Tank Junior Member
    Messages: 27

    The dial shift is on the 19 2500s
     
  6. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,575

    Really thanks for the heads up that's disappointing
     
  7. Western1

    Western1 PlowSite.com Addict
    from MI.
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    Bubble burst there?
     
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  8. Western1

    Western1 PlowSite.com Addict
    from MI.
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    Wonder if all will be that way? All different manufacturers that is
     
  9. Noelie84

    Noelie84 Member
    Messages: 91

    The dial on the new Rams performs the same function as the column shifter; it sends a signal to the computer that controls the transmission. There hasn't been a solid connection (cables, levers, etc) between the column shifter and the transmission in years. So there's really no difference in the speed that the truck will select 'Drive' or 'Reverse'
     
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  10. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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    My 2019 GMC has a cable that is connected to the side of the transmission... as does my 2016 Chevy too...
     
  11. JP Tank

    JP Tank Junior Member
    Messages: 27

    The problem that I find is that the dial is located somewhat near the radio dial. And the dial for the radio and shifter is roughly the same size... After a long day of plowing, and when your attention is on what's going out outside, it would be easy to grab the wrong one. If you are trying to turn down the radio and grab the wrong one and throw it in reverse while driving forward...
    Idk if that's a legit concern
     
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  12. Noelie84

    Noelie84 Member
    Messages: 91

    I'm not sure about the GM's; I've never owned one. I chat with the techs at the Ram Stealership whenever it's there for service, and from what they've told me all that the shifter does is send a signal to the transmission computer to engage drive, reverse, etc. and that it doesn't actually have a solid connection any more.

    Of course, dealership techs being dealership techs... :hammerhead:

    I will confess to not having crawled underneath and felt up my tranny to confirm what they've said
     
  13. JP Tank

    JP Tank Junior Member
    Messages: 27

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    Correction... The 2019 2500 and 1 ton do not have a dial shift... I went and test drive a 2500 today and it was lever shift.
    On the dodge website has a dial shift pictured on the 2500 and 3500. So I don't know if that is for the 2020s or if they got lazy and used a 1500 picture for all 3 pages
     
  14. Kassyinc

    Kassyinc Junior Member
    from Hope
    Messages: 4

    Hello.
    I have a 19 2500 with the dial shift.
    I was thinking it was going to be a pain shifting back and forth holding the fisher controle in my right hand .
    I came up with putting velcro on the dial . 20191104_183755.jpg
    The soft part on the dial and a piece on the end of the controle.
    I think it's going to be ok.

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  15. Noelie84

    Noelie84 Member
    Messages: 91

    That's an unusual idea that will probably work great :laugh:
     
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  16. cwren2472

    cwren2472 PlowSite Fanatic
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    That velcro will hold the control in place sticking straight out and when you press the buttons?
     
  17. Noelie84

    Noelie84 Member
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    I would guess he'll hold the plow control, and when he wants to shift he'll press the control against the shift selector and twist either left or right to pick Drive or Reverse.
     
  18. cwren2472

    cwren2472 PlowSite Fanatic
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    I don't plow so maybe I'm not following, but would that be easier somehow than just turning the dial?
     
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  19. Noelie84

    Noelie84 Member
    Messages: 91

    Depends on how you plow. If you've got a fish stick controller and you hold it in your right hand and steer with your left, then yes.
    If you hold it in your left hand and steer/shift with your right, then no.

    Not having to set the plow controller down to shift can save you a lot of time.
     
  20. Kassyinc

    Kassyinc Junior Member
    from Hope
    Messages: 4