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Hey guys,
I am very new to this (my first post ever actually). Our Sister company has been using liquid as our sole means of de-icing for the past four years with great success. We just added this 2700 gallon sprayer to our line up. It is fully GPS controlled and is capable of spraying a 30 ft patter at speeds up to 45 mph. We built all of our sprayers initially and now offer a full line through our new company, VSI. We build sprayers for ATV's all the way up to what you see here. We also have an entire line of brine makers from budget tote models all the way up to 4000 gallon units.
We have an extensive knowledge of the entire liquid de-icing process from making to spaying. We are here to answer any questions that you guys have and would like to clear up any grey areas in this process.

And also to the last post about the portable brine maker, we do have an option for you.
Let me know what you think!

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Broncslefty7;2115487 said:
what does the GPS control do? are the tanks in your units baffled?
Our gps setups consist of a main controller, servo valve,flow meter, and a solenoid valve. The controller allows you to input your desired application rate in gallons per acre and the spray width of your boom. Once these have been set the controller takes care of the rest. The controller senses your movement and adjusts the flow rate based on your speed and applies the set amount regardless of the speed you are traveling. This is especially nice when spraying small parking lots and commercial lots where you have a constant flow of traffic. When you stop the speed sensor sends a signal to your solenoid valve and stops the flow until you begin moving again.

The best part about the controller is that we can now spray the correct amount at any speed (given the flow rate of your pump and the dynamics of your plumbing to your boom). If your speed exceeds the maximum flow rate your pump can produce, a warning light will come on letting you know to slow down. Without this we used to have to calibrate our pump to spray at a certain rate and derive the speed which we could travel based on our flow. It did work, however we had the tendency to over apply at speeds below our target speeds and under apply at speeds above. We also had to derive our speeds for every application rate. We now simply change our application rate in our controller and it takes care of everything for us.

The controller also has many additional features that monitors tank level, instantaneous flow rate, total number of gallons sprayed, and gallons per account. There are many additional features, these are the ones we use most frequently.

The controller is also used to control the zones on your boom. Our 2700 gallon sprayer is equipped with a three zone boom. When all of the zones are on we can spray a 30 foot swath. When this large of an area is not needed we simply turn off the section or sections that we do not want to spray and the controller adjusts the flow rate to maintain our desired application rate. The more sections that are spraying, the more flow you need and vice versa.

This precision control has prevented us from over or under applying our liquid thus saving us money. We no longer have to get out of the truck to turn off a valve or pump and it has also allowed us to put someone completely inexperienced in our trucks without the worry of them over or under applying.

As far as tank baffles go, we have never felt the need to install baffles in our tanks. We keep our trucks full while plowing to maintain our ballast and de-ice at the end of our routes. The movement of liquid has never been a problem for us. Even when the tank is half full we have not noticed any reduction in handling of our vehicles. All of our 3/4 ton trucks are equipped with the low profile sprayers in the picture above which really helps lower the center of gravity of the truck. I understand that some do find it annoying to feel the sway of liquid behind them, however in these trucks we have found the slosh to be very minimal.

The tanks we use on our bigger sprayers, like our hooklift truck, come with molded baffles from the factory. They do a good job of minimizing the slosh of liquid.

Thanks for the question. Feel free to ask anything else about our setups and operation.
 
VS Innovation;2114489 said:
Here are a few pictures of our low-profile truck sprayers. They too are GPS controlled.
VS

I am really liking your builds, very clean and simple looking.Thumbs Up
 
VS Innovation;2114489 said:
Here are a few pictures of our low-profile truck sprayers. They too are GPS controlled.
VS

Are you running 1" reducer from the pump on all of your plumbing, then 2" from the 12v switch to the boom? The Boom hose just looks big to me, but I see that your boom diameter on that truck looks large as well. It's the opposite of how we build ours, but whatever works for you.
 
86 CJ;2116074 said:
VS

Are you running 1" reducer from the pump on all of your plumbing, then 2" from the 12v switch to the boom? The Boom hose just looks big to me, but I see that your boom diameter on that truck looks large as well. It's the opposite of how we build ours, but whatever works for you.
Since all of our electronic components are 1", we are reducing down from 2" to 1" straight out of the pump. The hose out of the solenoid valve is actually one inch. It does look deceiving in the picture. Reducing out of the pump keeps the setup very clean and compact. All of our booms our 1 1/2. This allows enough volume to be present when spraying at higher speeds. It also yields the most consistent flow rate out of every nozzle on our booms, ensuring an equal application rate across the entire boom.

On our bigger sprayers that we have built for our Isuzu and hooklift truck, we keep everything plumbed 2" until our solenoid valves and electronic controls. This helps increase the flow rate to the boom so that higher spraying speeds and rates can be achieved. On our truck units we are seeing a maximum flow rate of around 35 gpm at the boom (with the 1/4 inch holes). This still equates to a maximum speed of 27 mph (at 80 gallons per acre) which is more than suitable for all applications. On our Isuzu we can spray at speeds around 45 mph (which we never do). The speeds are reduced the more you apply per acre. For example, when melting off heavy snow pack using a rate of 100 gallons per acre our max speed before under applying (with our Isuzu) would be 24.75 mph. We set our sprayers up to ensure we can still move at decent speeds when applying heavier application rates. Again our controller monitors everything for us. Even with the capability of a flow rate of 50 gpm to our booms, the controller only allows the flow necessary for the speed you are spraying at.

Thanks for the compliment on our setups as well! We have seen many other builds with valves and hoses running everywhere. We wanted to make a setup that was self explanatory at a glance. It really helps when training in new guys to spraying.
 
Broncslefty7;2118084 said:
what are you guys averaging for coverage?
Depending of conditions and percentage of calcium chloride, we spray 80-120 gallons per acre. Spraying an account that has freshly been plowed, we are on the lower end of that range. When melting off hard snow pack or amounts that are not worth dropping a plow, we will tend to run around the 95-100 gallons per acre.
 
Broncslefty7;2118166 said:
i like how simple your units are, however it is a real pain when someone plumbs fitting to fitting to fitting. if something starts to leak or there is a break you practically need to replumb the entire thing.
I understand the concern about plumbing back to back. We do this on these sprayers because it is very ridig and allows us to support the electronics on the skid. We have used these sprayers for two years and have never had an issue. We even had one of drivers back directly into a tree pushing the tank against the back of the box and the plumbing held up.

It sounds like you are around the same size as our company. We plow around 18-20 acres of snow per storm. Again depending on conditions, we spray around 1600 - 2500 gallons per storm. We have two trucks with these low profile sprayers, an Isuzu cab over with a 500 gallon tank, dump truck with a 1000 gallon sprayer, and our 2700 gallon hooklift truck sprayer.

Up until this year, we used our 1000 gallon sprayer in our dump truck and it worked just fine. Everything but our hooklift truck has a plow, so it just made sense to have a sprayer in every piece of equipment that is servicing the accounts.

We also utilize our 2700 gallon sprayer to fill our other trucks when they run out. We have multiple accounts where our hook truck cannot easily manuver, so we let the smaller sprayers handle these accounts and leave the hook truck for the open areas.
 
Broncslefty7;2118165 said:
we have roughly 18 acres of property we plow, i am trying to figure out how many times i will need to fill up over the course of the night.
The number of times you would need to fill obviously depends on the size of your tank. 18 acres at 85 gallons per acre is 1530 gallons. If you had a 300 gallon thank that would be around 5 loads.
 
Broncslefty7;2118185 said:
ok, canyou message me a price on a 300 gallon low profile system, with a hose reel, the gps, and tri tips on the boom?
Please email me at voigt.smith.innovation@gmail.com I do not want to overstep my privileges on this site. I have been contacting plowsite in regards to becoming a sponsor with no response for over a month now.
 
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