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Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by hinikersnowplow, Jan 7, 2015.

  1. hinikersnowplow

    hinikersnowplow Member
    from on aol
    Messages: 53

    how many of you guys think this ? i have a friend that claims he plows 65 properties doing it by himself with one truck . what do you all think

    it is combined of commercial and residental
  2. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    That's possible. I do around 60 driveways in about 4.5 hours with my truck. As long as the commercial properties aren't too big that's pretty doable
  3. Snow tracker

    Snow tracker Senior Member
    Messages: 137

    Totally doable. May be on thin ice when it gets deep but it's possible.
  4. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Its possible 65 with 1 truck Long day at work

    How long does your friend say it takes him
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  5. hinikersnowplow

    hinikersnowplow Member
    from on aol
    Messages: 53

    He say 13 hrs to plow and clean off sidewalks with a western v plow . I do 18 commercail lots and 6 driveways in 7 hrs or less.
  6. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    13 hrs is a long day

    My route of 28 Com lots and 9 drives 3 Big Condo complex's takes me about 10-12 hrs that's running 5 plow rigs. Soon be a 6th rig Today or tomorrow plow gets here .

    The 5 of the 28 Com lots I do are 5 acre +.
    Once the first 1'' snow falls, Im plowing till the storm has stop. So I plow a lot of lots 2-3 times, Drives and Complex's only get one visit .
    After everything is plowed takes about 3 hrs to salt everything with 2 rigs
  7. hinikersnowplow

    hinikersnowplow Member
    from on aol
    Messages: 53

    i'm talking one truck doing the work
  8. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,123

    I think it all depends on what size, shape and how much side walk.
    I have 22 with one parking lot. Takes 9-10 hours with 2 inches. Some are a real PITA with lots of hand work and stairs to many doors. Many are the dumbest curvy long driveways you could imagine with basket ball hoops and bushes everywhere. But I charge more for some of those than the 36,000 sq ft parking lot.

    65 is a lot, 12 mins with some handwork it 13 hours. Does he have a shovel man in the truck to take care of that part? Must be all very close together. My farthest from one end to the other is about 7 miles, but in really bad weather this time on the road adds up.
  9. hinikersnowplow

    hinikersnowplow Member
    from on aol
    Messages: 53

    no just himself doing it all no shovel man unless his boy doesn't have school lol
  10. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,123

    I would not want to be in he's shoes when it snows 6 to 8 inches. Mine goes from 10 hours to 15-16 hours.
    65 would turn in to 24 ish.
  11. hinikersnowplow

    hinikersnowplow Member
    from on aol
    Messages: 53

    i know what ya mean i just don't know weather he is just mouthing off to me or what . but it just hard for me t believe it though to say he has more than me . i mainly do commercail lots and don't ever see him plowing other commercails lots
  12. jhenderson9196

    jhenderson9196 Senior Member
    Messages: 615

    Its all relative. Add all the drives together and come up with total length. I only plow about 15 but 6 of them add up to 3 miles by themselves. And they're all gravel. Takes a while.
  13. leigh

    leigh 2000 Club Member
    from CT
    Messages: 2,342

    That works out to 12 minutes per account! Possible but improbable.Unless there're all on one street,no travel time.Hate to be at the end of his route,who waits 13 hrs after storm to be cleared.
  14. hickslawns

    hickslawns Senior Member
    Messages: 627

    I learned a long time ago guys lie about a few things in life: How much money they make, what fuel mileage their truck gets, how big that trophy buck was they supposedly shot but couldn't find, and. . . well, a few other things. It is called insecurity.

    In business, I used to worry a lot about my competition. Then I figured out some things and we started getting pretty busy. The busier I got, the less I worried about them. Looking back, if I would have stopped worrying what the other guy was doing and started focusing on what I was doing earlier I believe I would have gotten a better start. I call it school of hard knocks. I was worried whether I was doing things right or not and trying to be like others. I started focusing on each individual account and whether each account was profitable or not. Didn't take long to realize 20-30-40 profitable accounts are better then 200 not profitable accounts. Also less headaches, break downs, wear and tear, etc. Don't worry about your "friend." You will be fine.
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  15. downtoearthnh

    downtoearthnh Senior Member
    Messages: 121

    that number of driveways can, of course, be done with a single truck. Whether the customers are satisfied, whether the operator is overtired and dangerous toward the end of the route, and whether in the end it is worth it are questions that only the owner can answer.
  16. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,394

    Lots of variables, we did 33 driveways in one subdivision in around an hour and all of those were your typical 2 car wide and about 2-3 car deep type. That same truck did an additional 15 or so properties, some commercials and a couple more residentials along the way. So it's doable just depends how big and close the places are I guess.
  17. snowplower1

    snowplower1 Senior Member
    Messages: 966

    I could see it happening but the question really is, is he able to get to all of them fast enough where his phone doesn't blow up every event. I factored it myself that a typical driveway here (a 2 car drive) would take me probably 2 minutes so I'd be able to do 30 in an hour. I couldn't imagine doing a decent job doing 60 drives meaning each would be a minute
  18. GBBC

    GBBC Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    65 is totally doable. I've been at this plowing stuff for 12 years and my list has grown to 85+/-. The past 2 years I made it through with the help of a friend that had a truck of his own and a dozen of his own accounts. He helped me for a few hours in the critical time in the morning. Otherwise it was balls to the wall for 14+ hrs. I don't do much shoveling though and really need a message when the snow stops falling and the last flakes are cleared away.
    I currently run a 2015 chevy2500 double cab with a Fisher XLS and a 7' 1.5 cu yd. polycaster spreader.
  19. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,617

    I used to do 75 drives alone. No shoveling.
    ALL my drives are in a 3 mile circle, and 21 miles to drive past all my houses.

    It took 8 hours to finish them up with 3 inches, larger storms take longer. My customers LOVE me.

    Now I run about 100 drives and have a second plower. If the storm gets over 6" I call in a third plower.

    I started plowing in 1986 at the age of 33. I had customers in 3 towns, took me about 4 years to figure out that was not going to work (I know a slow learner).

    Anyways back to the OP IF he is doing it rite, yes 65 is possible. Long hours shure, thats why its called WORK.
  20. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    Always keep an eye on what your competition & the industry is doing.
    This doesn't mean you have to do what they are doing or stalk them.
    But they could cone up with something that could make you more profitable.

    morel of the story, dont stick your head in the sand.
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