a contract for subs

bubble boy

Member
Location
north Toronto
i am looking into hiring a sub this winter and want to draw up some sort of a basic contract, nothing too involved.

i am looking into WC and insurance detail now and will include this info, plus a payment schedule, contract term, non compete clause, duties, etc.

also including a note that plowing anyone not on the list is in breach of contract.

just wondering, what do the smaller companies include that i've missed? searching surprisingly turned up little.

again, i know these agreements can be pages long, but what basic points have i missed?

any help is of course appreciated;)

thanks
 

plowed

Senior Member
Location
Newtown, CT
Have you included how travel time will be paid/comp'd?

Some guys don't pay it at all, while others pay for port to port, that is from the time they leave the yard/shop to the time they return.
 

SnoJob67

Senior Member
Location
Illinois
Consider calling 1-800-456-0707 to order John Allin's Snow Removal Business Forms on CD.

It costs about $25 or so. I just recently bought the CD myself. I'll check it out and see if I get any ideas for new forms or ways to improve our existing forms for next season.

Although I have not had a chance to check out the CD, this is my take on Allin Co's forms that I have seen. If you are wanting to be thorough and document service without having pages and pages of contracts, etc. his forms are likely to be easy to adapt for your needs. And, no, he isn't paying me royalties. :p

The forms I got were included in my binder for my member kit when I joined SIMA. That binder is worth the price of joining if you want to get a better idea of how other successful contractors do things.

I freely throw money at educational materials, seminars, etc. when I have the chance. That may just be my nature, but it has helped me. I am very happy with my return on those investments.:cool: payup :cool:
 

Big Todd

Senior Member
I have been working with my insurance guy setting up our policy as we have recently formed an LLC. He tells me to make sure that we require our subs (with their own trucks) to carry at least as much general liability coverage on their own policy as we have. I would make sure to have that in the contract too.
 

John Allin

PlowSite.com Addict
Location
Erie, PA
If you decide to carry $5M GCL coverage, you'll be very hard pressed to get your subs to carry that kind of coverage. The agent is reciting the company verbiage. But just be aware of the ramifications of demanding your subs have the same coverage as you if you raise your limits significantly.

As for the CD - there is a subcontractor agreement that you can manipulate for your own purposes. And, it's being used by quite a few contractors around the country. We also know it works as it's been tested in the court system in various states.
 

SnoJob67

Senior Member
Location
Illinois
Also, you may want to check with the Canadian equivalent of the IRS about restricting employees from performing other plow jobs.

The IRS will classify someone restricted from performing other plow jobs as an employee, rather than a subcontractor for tax purposes. I'd hate to have to pay that kind of tax bill. :realmad:
 

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