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52 car lot In downtown cleveland... need help pricing!

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by PlowOrDie, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. PlowOrDie

    PlowOrDie Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 164

    Hi everyone here...

    I am not a TOTAL novice...I have some residential contracts this year, and a couple per push's...

    was just wondering how one would go about pricing a 52 car lot that is in a big city, that cannot be plowed until after 9pm, and must be plowed before 7am. I feel that these are dangerous hours to be plowing in a confined lot in this area, so that might be cause for additional charges...(maybe i can charge more and put it in an estimated firearms licensing expense account)

    anyways, the guy claims he was paying 85 per push. he said he had some guys lined up but they never came, and that is why he is calling me... I checked the property out on satellite and it also seems like there are limited spots to stack the snow...

    I told him I will charge him $100 to clean up the mess now (it is all compacted too)...but I keep second guessing myself and I want to charge more, but dont know if it is logical. I do pay insurance, and I have an LLC established.... so i DO have expenses, or are they called liabilities?....anyways, I was thinking about charging him the 100 now... then if it is that difficult and takes long, i will charge him:

    3"-$125 per push. so every 3 inches, $125 bucks. Does this sound decent? all opinions will be greatly appreciated..
  2. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,925

    show us a pic///
  3. LoneCowboy

    LoneCowboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,760


    Get a CCP (I know you can in Ohio)

    Don't talk to strangers.
  4. nicksplowing

    nicksplowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,226

    If No One Is Showing Up Sounds Like Its A Problem Lot Charge Enough To Make It Worth Your Time Worst He Can Say Is No! Good Luck Pictures And More Details Of The Lot Would Be A Big Help
  5. Sydenstricker Landscaping

    Sydenstricker Landscaping PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,882

    Depending on what part of Cleveland, I wouldnt go in with less than a Bazooka:eek: But I would go more than 100 since it is so packed and will be tough on the truck to get the crap all cleaned up. 125 per push sounds decent, but if you can direct us to the satelite image link, it could help!!!!
  6. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,522

    Plow fast and keep your doors locked too. payup Go in with:gunsfiring: a blazing and nobody will mess with you.

    Seriously, if it in a bad area make sure you charge enough. Don't go by what the guy says he was paying. You costs are different then they previous guy. Plus as already said, put a picture up too.
  7. PlowOrDie

    PlowOrDie Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 164

    well i dont know how to put a pic up... but here is the address... type it in @ http://maps.live.com ...

    3200 Euclid Ave
    Cleveland, OH 44125 ...

    thanks for some of the replies already... let me know what you think after you check it out ....

    oh and if anyone knows how to save the satellite images, that would be useful also. thanks!
  8. nicksplowing

    nicksplowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,226

    looks Like A Pita Lot!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Only See One Corner Where Snow Can Be Put Other Then Pushing It Out To The Street Which If Like Philadelphia Carries A Hefty Fine !! This Looks Like A Lot That Will Need Hauling Services To Me Curious To Know How It Goes Keep Us Posted Good Luck
  9. PlowOrDie

    PlowOrDie Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 164

    well, i decided to man up and just go there... I went there and took care of all the compacted snow... It really wasnt TOO bad... it took me 15 minutes to realize that the gate requires you to pull up to it... i walked all around the gate trying to figure it out...

    well anyways, there really is not too many places to stack the snow there.. there was probably 3 inches of snow compacted, and I just piled most of it in the peninsula, and angled the rest up against the fence...

    The lot is some nice asphalt though, pretty new. WHICH IS GREAT. no holes.

    My nerves were a little wound up, but thats nothing classical music cannot handle....I also had a 8 inch marine knife with me, that I strategically placed in my center console, in a position ready to be whipped out at any instance....

    NickPlowing, you are right though, it will be a pain in the ass if alot of snow falls.... I dont think i want to get into a contract with this guy and would much rather just bill per push....
  10. ADK

    ADK Member
    Messages: 31

    Here's your lot pic.......... Myself, I'd only do it per push, per call. That way you have an out if needed..........Good luck

  11. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,537

    have they mentioned anything to you about making sure you dont cover any of the parking spots? cause if not then i would just take about 5 spots in the southernmost part of the lot and pile it all there.

    if you are doing it by push, Id go out there during the storm, and i doubt your gonna get carjacked or mugged during a cold-arse storm, lol, "Shite, I aint goin out in that!, Its COLD out there!"