[TJH13]

I understand and respect the brand loyalty to the Chevy/Ford/Dodge folks out there. I am on the verge of buying a 2008 5.7 Tundra Crewmax because it has superior room in the second row for two car seats and leg room. Would appreciate any feedback from more experienced truck owners, regardless of their allegience.

I will only need to plow my 300 ft. asphalt driveway and one other driveway from time to time. I know the Toyta Dealer is gonna tell me its fine to plow with it but is it gonna do long term damage on the frame/suspension over time?

With this $$$ price tag I need it to last for quite a while.

Dealer recommended the Fisher 7.5LD as well. Thoughts?

 

[PA-plow-at-home]

In case this helps, below is a picture of a 2007 Tundra with a Blizzard plow. I think this poster had said that it was a model 720LT.
Here is the link to one of his posts about it:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=54000

 

[toby4492]

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[02DURAMAX]

I understand and respect the brand loyalty to the Chevy/Ford/Dodge folks out there. I am on the verge of buying a 2008 5.7 Tundra Crewmax because it has superior room in the second row for two car seats and leg room. Would appreciate any feedback from more experienced truck owners, regardless of their allegience.

I will only need to plow my 300 ft. asphalt driveway and one other driveway from time to time. I know the Toyta Dealer is gonna tell me its fine to plow with it but is it gonna do long term damage on the frame/suspension over time?

With this $$$ price tag I need it to last for quite a while.

Dealer recommended the Fisher 7.5LD as well. Thoughts?

Go with a Western MidWeight!! or that Fisher...Both very good plows

 

[MileHigh]

get a real truck

the new tundras are crap. There fast as hell with good power, and look good, but a POS. But I think it'll take a few years for toyota to step up to the plate. There trucks are way behind if you actually work with your truck. The frame, tranny, the bed bounce is total crap. Check out this test between the frame of the Toyota vs the Ford.

look at this too.

The box litteraly hits the rear cab as you go over bumps!

 

[Newdude]

i say if you want tons of legroom go for a ram mega cab.

 

[Flipper]

Some background on those test as came out on another forum from someone who was actually there. The Ford had weight in the bed, this makes a big difference in bounce. Further on the Toyota they (Ford testers) cut out the floor of the bed and it was empty, this meant less weight and the rigidity of the bed was gone. Finally the course was setup for the F150 wheelbase not the Toyotas. Clearly not a clean comparison. I guess Ford is scared and with reason, today it was announced that Toyota passed them as the #2 seller.

 

[bribrius]

i just try to buy american. if i cant i buy german. if i cant buy german i buy a nissan. i had have good luck with nissans. had a toyota once. it wasnt as reliable as they say on tv. suppose all makes are good.

i think you should just buy a minivan and pay someone to plow the driveway. new minivans are actually quite nice with tons of options and you seem concerned over child seats.
cheaper paying someone to plow than buying the plow and setup. unless you want to put a plow on a minivan?
i vote you get a minivan.

 

[NoRide]

Local dealer had this offering for reference.

 

[Joe D]

Some background on those test as came out on another forum from someone who was actually there. The Ford had weight in the bed, this makes a big difference in bounce. Further on the Toyota they (Ford testers) cut out the floor of the bed and it was empty, this meant less weight and the rigidity of the bed was gone. Finally the course was setup for the F150 wheelbase not the Toyotas. Clearly not a clean comparison. I guess Ford is scared and with reason, today it was announced that Toyota passed them as the #2 seller.

I highly doubt they did any of that. Cutting the floor of the bed would do nothing even if they did do that. The frame flexing is the biggest issue and it was between the cab and bed. Extra weight would help the bouncing and cause the frame to flex even more. Load the Yota with 500lbs at the front of the bed and see what happens.
If you set on buying one, buy it. Long term who knows but just doing your driveway I think anything will survive that. I wouldn't buy one but thats my opinion.

 

[MileHigh]

Some background on those test as came out on another forum from someone who was actually there. The Ford had weight in the bed, this makes a big difference in bounce. Further on the Toyota they (Ford testers) cut out the floor of the bed and it was empty, this meant less weight and the rigidity of the bed was gone. Finally the course was setup for the F150 wheelbase not the Toyotas. Clearly not a clean comparison. I guess Ford is scared and with reason, today it was announced that Toyota passed them as the #2 seller.

BS..........

 

[Flipper]

I can't post a linke to another Forum here but would be happy to pass it along. It is enlightening to say the least.

Of course some people on here can't admit that the big 3 could be deceitful. Lets see, they have run and tried to run numerous American and Foreign auto companies out of business using the government, unions etc. They together with the fuel companies stopped the first tries for fuel efficient vehicles which is why we pay $3 a gallon and get 10 miles to the gallon today. And every year they report hyge losses and only because of our tax dollars manage to stay in business.

 

[Flipper]

I have never ridden in any truck, I own or have owned, Fords, Chevies, Dodges and Toyotas, that did not ride better with a little weight in the bed. My Ford pickup would hop all over when I first bought it. As soon as I put my toolbox in it and loaded it it was a lot smoother.

 

[StoneDevil]

Even though Toyotas headquartered in Japan, they are assembled here in the USA so to say there Foreign isnt just so. like Chevy Ford and Dodge they have a part or two thats foreign. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but thats my .02 worth

 

[MileHigh]

I have never ridden in any truck, I own or have owned, Fords, Chevies, Dodges and Toyotas, that did not ride better with a little weight in the bed. My Ford pickup would hop all over when I first bought it. As soon as I put my toolbox in it and loaded it it was a lot smoother.

Doesn't matter..weight or not, a bed should not bounce like that PERIOD. A bed should never be able to destroy your rear cab by just driving over bumps, and believe me, the majority of people buying this truck don't put anything but a little groceries back there. Most people that would buy this truck are older Tundra owners who never put there truck to work or Tacoma users that get jealous of a way bigger and beefier Toyota, or people that just don't like american vehicles. Look at the options, the facts, and the people that love there trucks, and you'll see Toyota and Nissan are way behind in there trucks...can't say that about there cars though.

 

[TJH13]

I will only be plowing my driveway (paved,300 feet) so hopefully the Tundra crew will work well for us. I could pay to have it done but with the wind on my lot I would have to wait for plower to come two/three times a day during a storm. The crew cab makes sense for us sizewise and I am one of those people who'll haul groceries, and make a weekly trip to the dump.

I truly do appreciate/respect all the feedback both positive/negative from each of you. Your experiences and knowledge has not been ignored.

 

[PhatSupraTT]

I love the Junior High comments bladescape makes. “Tundras are crap. Tundras are a POS.” As a long time Toyota owner and supporter, I’ve defended Toyotas and listened to these ignorant comments for years. I won’t sit here and bash Fords or Chevrolet because it’s pointless. The numbers speak for themselves. Toyota first surpassed GM in worldwide sales last year, then proceeds to sell more than Ford in America. Toyota sales up 3% for the year, Ford down 12%, Tundra sales up 57%, F150’s down 13.2%. Do you think there just might possibly be a reason for this? Or is this also BS as you so eloquently put it a few posts ago?

Oh, since I find myself on this level, I love how some highly intelligent Dodge owners chant buy American, buy American. Dodge is no longer any more American than Toyota. Mercedes has owned Dodge since 1998 putting it in the same category – foreign owned.


Mark
2000 Toyota Tacoma
1994 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
2006 Lexus RX 350

 

[Flipper]

To be correct, I am pretty sure Daimler sold Chrysler last year to a group of Private investors. Though most are American all of the investors have made their money in the golbal economy.

 

[bribrius]

I love the Junior High comments bladescape makes. "Tundras are crap. Tundras are a POS." As a long time Toyota owner and supporter, I've defended Toyotas and listened to these ignorant comments for years. I won't sit here and bash Fords or Chevrolet because it's pointless. The numbers speak for themselves. Toyota first surpassed GM in worldwide sales last year, then proceeds to sell more than Ford in America. Toyota sales up 3% for the year, Ford down 12%, Tundra sales up 57%, F150's down 13.2%. Do you think there just might possibly be a reason for this? Or is this also BS as you so eloquently put it a few posts ago?

Oh, since I find myself on this level, I love how some highly intelligent Dodge owners chant buy American, buy American. Dodge is no longer any more American than Toyota. Mercedes has owned Dodge since 1998 putting it in the same category - foreign owned.

Mark
2000 Toyota Tacoma
1994 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
2006 Lexus RX 350

in my last post i said i owned a toyota and said i didnt believe the reliability perception was very true. i know little about the tundra other than what i have read. only good positive thing i have read was motortrend and to be honest i dont pay much attention to motortrend.
i have however read reports of camshaft failures, torque converter failures. owners coming up with petitions to make toyota fix the problems. rear wheel hop when towing, cheap plastic like intereriors, that consumer reports dropped it from where it was on its recommended list after complaints from purchasers, tailgate issue with it denting too easy and becoming damaged to easy or falling off under strain, too much frame flex, cheap paint and outer body panels not holding up to scratches, dings, chips easily, and the list goes on.....
all i would recommend is that any purchaser look at all the info from all sources carefully. many put this truck below or equal to the big three in ratings and i guess motor trend has since second guess it's decision. But dont listen to me i suggest all do there own research. I try to buy american anyway best i can and dont want to be accused of being biased.

 

[bribrius]

Doesn't matter..weight or not, a bed should not bounce like that PERIOD. A bed should never be able to destroy your rear cab by just driving over bumps, and believe me, the majority of people buying this truck don't put anything but a little groceries back there. Most people that would buy this truck are older Tundra owners who never put there truck to work or Tacoma users that get jealous of a way bigger and beefier Toyota, or people that just don't like american vehicles. Look at the options, the facts, and the people that love there trucks, and you'll see Toyota and Nissan are way behind in there trucks...can't say that about there cars though.

I can. we bought a nissan car new in 2005. I have always had good luck with nissans mechanically and this car hasnt failed us yet in that way. it just hit fifty k so it doesnt have too many miles yet and it should run a long time. far as the rest of the car beyond that fact that i think it will always start the rest of the car is a pos. cheap materials. tin. guess it is my car so i can say that about it. we use it for a beater, commuter and if it fell into the ocean i wouldnt care. next car wont be a nissan. We had a truck the same way. took a beating but material wise a complete pos. I think cosmetic crap will start breaking soon. No materials can be that cheap and last. The doors will probably fall off but i guess it will still start.

EDIT: the truck had been to the dealer so many times for everything from anti lock brake issues (six times) to needing numerous front end parts and it rusting so bad underneath it froze and had to be heated up to break it free so they could give it a alignment. I dumped the truck at seventy k when the heater stopped working third time and something wrong with the alternator pully. figure the car will go the same route. toyota camry. check engine light over and over, started smoking black at eighty k. dumped it. mazda truck, dumped it 97k, toyota truck, dumped it 120k(but it never broke down just everything else but).........