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2004 2500HD Steering Shaft

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by Motorman 007, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. So my steering shaft rattle is getting really bad now that the truck is 7 years old. I had 2 shafts done under warranty but apparently they never figured out the problem. Is the "kit" that repairs it available and where? Is it a big deal to do? Thanks!!
  2. SD Cookman

    SD Cookman Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    I would like info as well, I've done mine once and it is needed again.I also have a 04 2500HD
    I also did the
    tie rods
    idler arm
    pitman arm
    two front wheel bearings
    This is just the front end....I could list a lot more .. :angry:

    Don't get me started on the Transmission :realmad:
  3. SServices

    SServices Senior Member
    Messages: 163

    Check the steering shaft bearing in the steering column. I had the same problem in my 05, the shaft wasn't the problem. The bearing wiggles inside the housing, causing the thumping. Pretty easy fix. Grab the shaft under the dash and move it back and forth if you hear a thump or any slop that's it.
  4. KSikkema

    KSikkema Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    you will need to remove the intermediate steering shaft and apply more grease onto the splines. There is a special grease kit available from GM, but we have used regular grease many times with the same results. Just apply lots of grease onto the splines, re-install and voila, noise gone!
  5. RichG53

    RichG53 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,135

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  6. stacks04

    stacks04 Senior Member
    from ct
    Messages: 119

    I never understood the point of this stuff:confused:
  7. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    If u like greasing ur shaft every 6 months go for it. Id opt to blow the whole 50 on a updated dorman shaft and never have to worry about again But thats just me.
  8. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    Yep takes all of 20 min and $50 to never hear the noise again.Or if u like blowing time u can keep re greasing it ever 6 months or a year. Some people have to much time aparently.
  9. Well I'm not one of them. Where can I get the Dohrman shaft?
  10. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    Car quest for sure. And any other parts stores that carry the dorman line. Intermediate steering shaft is what u want. U can see the difference in the way the splines are made to elimnate the clunk heard when the grease wears out. I would make sure not to mess up the clock spring. Lock the steering wheel so it does not turn when it is disconnected prefferable in a posision where u can get at the bolts in the shaft. The bolt should require a 15 mm socket/wrench.: Also when u remove it from under the dash u might need to colapse the shaft the get it out from under the dash.

    Its 44.00 on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-425-176-Intermediate-Steering-Shaft/dp/B000Q0K5SQ
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2010

  11. THANKS I appreciate it.
  12. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    No problem I actually got to put on another one today also.
  13. rich414

    rich414 Senior Member
    Messages: 294

    I have a 3500hd. there is a plastic thing above the brake peddle that I replaces, but I grabbed the steering wheel to get my self up off the floor board and spun the wheel which broke the springs in the air bag, which cost $300 to get the springs repaired by the dealer...DONT SPIN THE STEERING WHEEL.... my steering column is rattling again....

    its amazing how the dealer had 10 of these parts on the shelf...maybe chevy should step up and accept that there is still a part design failure...
  14. stacks04

    stacks04 Senior Member
    from ct
    Messages: 119

    Guys do a google search, there is a way to drill a hole and tap it and thread in a grease fitting to grease it yourself. I have heard this happens with good result. I tried it and have yet to install it into the truck.
  15. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    Dont want to part with 44 bucks to never have to grease it again? payup
  16. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,525

    That would be the clock spring that I mentioned above.
  17. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    Here's what B&B told me a while ago if this was the shaft bearing:

    Pretty self explanatory. Just a 1/4" bolt and jamb nut to push in on the bushing thus keeping the play out of it between it and the column tube. The tube isn't very thick (about the thickness of a piece of exhaust tubing) but you don't need more than a thread or two to do the job since you're not trying to grossly squeeze the bearing, just remove the play. Some guys will also slice the tube lengthwise with a Dremel tool and them add a hose clamp around it to tighten it up around the bearing. Both methods work well.
  18. 70monte

    70monte Senior Member
    Messages: 468

    GM has had steering shaft problems for years. I had to have the one replaced in my 98 K1500 when it was fairly new and I think it might need another one now.

    The 2004 Monte Carlo SS I bought last year has a noisy steering shaft that needs to be replaced and I guess its a common problem on these cars.

    I don't understand it, its not like GM hasn't been putting steering columns in vehicles for years. You would think they could get it right by now.

  19. samjr

    samjr Senior Member
    Messages: 481

    #00-02-35-003N: Clunking Noise Under Hood and Can Be Felt in Steering Wheel and/or St

    #00-02-35-003N: Clunking Noise Under Hood and Can Be Felt in Steering Wheel and/or Steering Column (Replace Upper Intermediate Steering Shaft (I-Shaft) Assembly) - (Mar 26, 2008)

    Subject: Clunking Noise Under Hood and Can Be Felt in Steering Wheel and/or Steering Column (Replace Upper Intermediate Steering Shaft [I-Shaft] Assembly)

    Models: 2002-2006 Cadillac Escalade Models

    1999-2007 Chevrolet Silverado Models (Classic)

    2000-2006 Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe Models

    2002-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche

    1999-2007 GMC Sierra Models (Classic)

    2000-2006 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL Models

    2003-2006 HUMMER H2
    Attention: This Service Bulletin DOES NOT include Mid-Size Utilities such as Buick Rainier, Chevrolet TrailBlazer Models, GMC Envoy Models or Oldsmobile Bravada. Refer to Service Bulletin 02-02-35-006A or newer for Mid-Size Utilities.
    This bulletin is being revised to add diagnostic information (refer to Diagnostic Tips) to check the lower steering column bearing as a potential source of the noise. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 00-02-35-003M (Section 02 -- Steering).

    Some customers may comment on a clunk-type noise coming from under the hood that also can be felt in the steering wheel. These conditions may be more noticeable when turning at low speeds on rough road surfaces.
    Diagnostic Tips

    Use the information below to help diagnose the source of the noise.
    • The lower steering column bearing may create the same noise as the intermediate shaft. Before replacing the I-shaft, verify the noise isn't being caused by movement from the lower steering column bearing. Check the bearing for movement by pushing up and down on the I-shaft where it attaches to the steering column.
    • Frame Snap and/or Popping Type Noise -- A frame snap or popping type noise can be duplicated on rough or smooth road surfaces with steering wheel input to the left or the right. This type of noise can be HEARD and is typically louder with the windows rolled down. For additional information, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 03-08-61-002F or newer -- Snap/Popping Type Noise Coming from Front of Vehicle (Remove Front Crossmember, Change Fastener Orientation).
    • Intermediate Shaft Clunk -- Intermediate shaft clunk is heard and FELT in the steering wheel and/or steering column area, typically while driving on rough road surfaces with steering wheel input.

    Replace the I-Shaft with P/N 19153614.
    Do NOT lubricate or exercise the I-Shaft.
    • I-shaft P/N 19153614 has been designed to replace previous designed dampened and non-dampened I-shafts. The physical difference in the yoke size will accommodate all vehicles listed in this bulletin.
    • Due to the design of the new I-shaft, it is not possible to lubricate/grease the I-shaft.

    Replace the steering column upper intermediate shaft with an improved design shaft that will eliminate the clunk noise using the procedure listed below.
    Set the front wheels in the straight ahead position.Notice: On the 2002 and later model year vehicles, the steering column LOCK was removed from the steering column. It is critical that the J 42640 - Steering column Anti-Rotation Pin is used when servicing steering columns on 2002 and later model year vehicles. Failure to use the J 42640 may result in damage to the SIR coil.
    Set the steering wheel in the LOCK position on 2001 and prior model year vehicles.

    For 2002 and later vehicles, install the J 42640 in the steering column lower access hole.

    From under the hood, remove the lower bolt that connects the upper intermediate shaft to the steering gear coupling shaft.
    Slide the shaft towards the dash in order to disengage the shaft from the steering gear coupling shaft.
    For vehicles equipped with adjustable foot pedals, perform the following steps:
    6.1. Reposition the carpet away from the accelerator pedal position (APP) sensor.

    6.2. Remove the two nuts retaining the accelerator pedal to the bulkhead.

    6.3. Reposition the accelerator pedal out of the way so the intermediate shaft can be removed.

    From inside the vehicle, remove the upper bolt from the upper intermediate steering shaft (1) to the steering column connection.
    Remove the upper intermediate steering shaft assembly.
    8.1. From inside the vehicle, slide the shaft down and off the steering column.

    8.2. From inside the vehicle, slide the upper intermediate shaft through the dash boot seal and remove the shaft from the vehicle.
    Replace the upper intermediate shaft.
    Install the upper intermediate steering shaft through the dash boot seal and slide the lower end into the steering gear coupling shaft.
    Raise the upper end of the intermediate steering shaft and install into the steering column shaft.
    Install the upper bolt and nut.Tighten
    Tighten the bolt to 47 N·m (35 lb ft).
    Install the lower bolt and nut.Tighten
    Tighten the bolt to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).
    For vehicles equipped with adjustable foot pedals, perform the following steps:
    14.1. Reposition the accelerator pedals into position on the bulkhead.

    14.2. Install the two retaining nuts.
    Tighten the nuts to 20 N·m (15 lb ft).
    14.3. Reposition the carpet into place.
    Parts Information

    Part Number
    Shaft - Upper Intermediate Steering
    Warranty Information

    For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
    Labor Operation
    Labor Time
    Shaft, Steering Intermediate - Upper -- Replace
    Use Published Labor Operation Time
    GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.




  20. samjr

    samjr Senior Member
    Messages: 481

    heres a PDF

    heres a better look @ it

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