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20 foot sea container

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by MSsnowplowing, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    Anyone using these to store sand/salt or Magic?

    and how well do they work.

    I'm bidding on a site where I need to store about 15-20 tons of product but I can not just put it on the ground and cover it with a tarp it has to be in a enclosed container.

    I can't build anything on the site so looking at sea containers.

    Not certain if I want to go with a 20 or 40 foot one.

    My rough est is I will use around 30 tons of salt/sand or if I use magic about 20 tons for the season.

    I don't need to get it all at once I can split it and just buy half to start.

    For a 20 foot buying it will cost around $2,500 to $3,000.

    For a 40 foot it's around $3,000 to $4,000.

    Then there is renting it for the season which would cost around $800.

    not certain which route I want to go yet.
  2. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    Go with the 40' so you have enough storage space. Besides they're not much more $$$
  3. Chieftkp

    Chieftkp Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    Get the 40 and you can store your material and a skid. Very secure, lock them up.
  4. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    Now that is a idea, I didn't think of that.

    Not worried about someone walking off with the skid as the site has security.

    But I still like the idea because it should keep the skid warmer.

    I hate cold seats.
  5. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Is the material bulk, or palletized bags? Because if it were bagged, I would buy an enclosed tandem axle trailer for storage. Then you have a trailer for off season stuff too.
  6. coloradopushr

    coloradopushr Member
    Messages: 82

    Yeah you can buy a tandum axel enclosed trailer 20 or 30 ft to keep things dry plus they are much easier to move around.
  7. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    Looking at bulk, a lot cheaper, found a place for sand/salt at $50 a yard
    Magic at $140 a yard
    just regular salt at $110 a yard.

    Hopefully, those were last years prices, called and they will not have prices till oct.

    Right now leaning toward just renting for the season, it will cost me around $600.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2015
  8. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,192

    There is no way I would store a skid inside a container with all that corrosive material. In the past I stored ATV's and bagged mag in the same container.... I no longer do it!!
  9. gman2310

    gman2310 Senior Member
    Messages: 171

    I rented, nice new container every year and didnt have to worry about it rusting out or storing it in off season.
  10. ProEnterprises

    ProEnterprises Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 379

    We keep all of our bulk salt in sea containers. I hace 50 ton in one right now.
  11. ponyboy

    ponyboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,104

    Don't waste your money on sand mix
  12. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    And why not?
  13. ponyboy

    ponyboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,104

    U will use twice as much material to melt is as salt
    In spring there will be sand everywhere that will need to be cleaned up mans during the winter the sand will be tracked into buildings and make a mess of the floor
  14. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    Magic 150 a ton. Sand/salt 50 a ton

    I can use double the amount and still make money.

    Using sand/salt means I can lower my pricing

    Sand everywhere, that is why put down light by doors.

    Come spring they pay me to do clean up of the sand.

    If you don't own the equipment, you rent it.

    You charge enough to pay the rental, your time and a little profit.

    They are happy and you too.
  15. ponyboy

    ponyboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,104

    Regular salt is $110 for you
    So I'd rather have the quicker melt and no sand but that's me
    And spreading sand usually takes longer then straight salt
    But if they are happy and you make money it's win win
  16. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 761

    Yes regular salt is a little cheaper than Magic.

    When I switched over, I went with Magic and used it for the last 3 years.

    It does a great job, but what I picked up for contracts last year and this year, I need to put down sand to reduce the chances of slip and falls.
    8 years of plowing and had my first slip and fall last year at said property.

    Plus CT keeps stealing all the magic and salt halfway thru the season and I end using sand/salt anyway.

    I might stick with magic if I can get 40 tons and store it.

    Hmm, rent one 40 and store magic in it and 1 20 to store salt /sand it that.

    then I am covered both ways.

    Coffee is kicking in. brain cells activating. :drinkup::drinkup::drinkup::drinkup:
  17. newage

    newage Junior Member
    from athol
    Messages: 5

    look in to clear lane there is a place in westfield ma i pretreat with it and it works amazing no ice ever now slip and fals and its safe on grass to a point
  18. FredG

    FredG PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,387

    My biggest issue between buying and renting would be are you equipped to mobilize the container. If not for somebody to mobilize it for you would probably cost you the rental both ways. We only use salt here, You use sand they want it cleaned up in the spring which would require a sweeper. Good Luck
  19. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 852

    Salt / sand blends are for roads or gravel parking lots, not paved ones.

    I couldn't imaging the mess in the spring and there is no way my customer would pay me to clean that up.

    Make a cheap pre treat system and treat only when needed, when it's 25 at 6am, you don't need treated salt..............