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2,000,000 sq ft retail estimating

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Monument Snow, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. Monument Snow

    Monument Snow Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    I'm pursuing a large new build for 13-14 season
    Anyone here currently operate this size

    My equipment current is (4) 310 BH 12' Push B
    (2) Front EL 16' Push B
    (4) Skid 10' poly left right up down
    (20) men shovelers
    (3) atv 4' plow
    (6) truck plow spreaders

    Any advice to secure such a large property

    I've contactacted cooperate and got a good reply

    Is it acceptable to bring the decision maker out for a fishing trip on my dollar.


    Monument Snow
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Smooze and booze,Did they ask for it or did you offer it to them? You better know your pricing because if your low they will use it against the other contractor.
  3. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,041

    Lol, I'm sorry but if you have that Equipement line up you should have no problem bidding that site.

    Great idea on the fishing trip !! Although what happens when the decision maker doesn't fish. :).
  4. csi.northcoast

    csi.northcoast Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    Either way they are going to shop for pricing, you need to find out what goals do they have ie: money over service??? or do they want it spotless no matter what the cost.

    Get to know what they want and prepare for them changing their mind and parameters....

    good luck
  5. Monument Snow

    Monument Snow Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    2,000,000 sq ft

    Traditionally I have had small commercial retail and neighborhood hoa's as a prime

    If I worked on a large retail/ cooperate I was a sub

    So the advice I m seeking is estimating large retail as a prime

    Not specific #s but maybe a database of avg #s or someone's experience as a prime.

    Additionally all my clients are on the local level and my proposed clients are in other states and hiding behind the cooperate vail/ red tape.

    Thank you in advance for your time.

    P.S. most of my equipment is used for Heavy Commercial Concrete in Colorado it just so happens that it is well suited for snow removal. Help me put it to work in the off season!
  6. dfdsuperduty

    dfdsuperduty Senior Member
    Messages: 597

    Become a member of SIMA and go to a synopsis or two talk to people their network network oh ya and network. What do you do to land the concrete work? If you have the work to justify the amount equipment you have I am sure you can figure out obtaining the snow work. Most of the time the decision maker is the same person.
  7. Monument Snow

    Monument Snow Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    I'll check SIMA out. Thx.
    I got really lucky with web search optimization
    So 8/10 concrete shoppers whether commercial
    Or residential solicit to me. Just pure luck.
    My two companies own the web. Now I just need to get
    The big snow properties and I'm sure ill truly be busy.
    Update** I did some calling in my concrete network
    And got the names and #s of some big mgmt. companies.
    Woo Hoo !
  8. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,069

    Instead of getting one property, get all of the properties on the block, keep your equipment at the 2 mil sq ft lot, use the other lots to pay for expenses and the large lot is all profit :)
  9. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    If you join SIMA ,use me as a referral and get 50 bucks off your membership.(Grandview)

    If you bid this place see about a retainer for plowing.
  10. thelettuceman

    thelettuceman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,218

  11. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

  12. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,594


    Whatever you do, don't send them a letter.
  13. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    how many '' truck plow spreaders'' ?

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,362

    They going to let you put a salt bin on site? With a site that size you better have 100 ton on hand at all times. Just a normal salt application will be 18 ton, just imagine freezing rain:dizzy:payup