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1/2 Ton owners.

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Bolts Indus., Dec 31, 2003.

  1. Bolts Indus.

    Bolts Indus. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,176

    First let me say I run a 1 Ton at present. I have run 1/4 and 1/2 tons my entire long life. There is absolutely nothing wrong in running a late model 1/2 ton for light commercial work if your plow is matched to the vehicle. The plow for a 1/2 ton should be in the 550 lb. range. example being a 7' 6"
    blade. The problem is we still think of the older heavier 1/2 tons and want the old 750 lb. blade. I recently lost a sale because I would not equip a guy's 1/2 ton with the heavy blade and another well known brand dealer would. I explained why but the customer insisted. I'm sure he and the dealer will regret this in the spring but what can you do. Beware of eager salesman that do not know the product and only want to make a sale. When you buy make sure you are talking to someone there that knows snowplows. A lot of companys make good plows but their reputation is in the hands of the salesman who may or may not know what he is talking about. If you are properly matched and maintain your product and drive it accordingly you will have few problems.

    Right job, Right tool still applies.
  2. Bolts Indus.

    Bolts Indus. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,176


    If you put the correct plow on your truck versus the wrong one you have a better case for your truck tranny warranty when you cook it.
    If you abuse a vehicle ( small truck,big job ) then the vehicle dealer is not going to be to happy to help you.
  3. NYplowboy

    NYplowboy Member
    Messages: 35

    Bolts, Thanks for your input in these threads! My dealer sounds a lot like you!. When I wanted a plow he told me "Don't even think about an 8 foot plow for your truck". It is a 2000 GMC 1500 ext cab 5.3 Z71. Ended up with a Fisher RD 7.5 plus added timbrens.
    My Truck dealer told me that as long as I did limited residential plowing. my warranty was good. Also for others reading this, Chevy/ GMC DOES NOT offer the plow prep on 1/2 ton ext. cab trucks!. Cant understand why.
  4. Bolts Indus.

    Bolts Indus. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,176

    You are welcome. It is in the interest of all dealers to help you make informed decisions. A happy customer comes back.
  5. cocco78

    cocco78 Senior Member
    Messages: 158

    The extended cab has a lower GVWR than a standard cab truck . That limits how much payload you can carry. Just a plow on an extended cab 1/2 probably will push you near your limit of the gvwr. This is why almost no one recomends a plow on a 3/4 ton ext cab diesel truck. The motor eats up almost all of the weight carring capacity of the 3/4 ton and doesn't leave much room for cargo and accessories.
  6. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    A 1/2 ton GM reg. cab has a 6100 lb. GVW.
    The 1/2 ton ex-cab has a 6400 lb. GVW.

    The reason no plow prep on 1/2 ex-cabs is GVWR.

    GM figures you will plow with 6 passengers and plow and
    exceed the 6400 lb. GVWR with the ex-cab.

    On a reg. cab 1/2 GM figures you will plow with 3 passengers
    and plow and not exceed the 6100 lb. GVWR.

    Strange but TRUE !!!!!!!! ............geo
  7. NYplowboy

    NYplowboy Member
    Messages: 35

    Sittin here laughin like heck! sonjabb. I plow alone so I should be ok:)
  8. rewoodworking

    rewoodworking Senior Member
    Messages: 223

    kind of what i was talking about in my thread (about different answers)
    so many places don't know what they are selling so you need to make sure for your your self that the guy you will be buying from knows more than you
  9. gpin

    gpin Senior Member
    Messages: 390

    We have run everything from CJ5s to 2 ton dumps to push snow and weight matters to me. The lightest truck we use now is a 1 ton utility bed. They seem to push snow effortlessly. Also on commercial work, the extra 6" or 12" blade makes a significant difference. That's why I am now looking at the Blizzard 810 for next season. I hope it can deliver for the price.
  10. Bolts Indus.

    Bolts Indus. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,176

    And it will give you change back.
  11. PremierLand

    PremierLand PlowSite.com Addict
    from detroit
    Messages: 1,572

    so for a 94 f150 with added suspension, does this mean i cant get a plow over 550lbs? i didnt think they even had plows that light? i know the boss that i was looking at was around 900+. am i SOL or can you guide me to a good 7" plow with hydraulic lift in the 550lb range?
  12. ratlover

    ratlover PlowSite.com Addict
    from IL
    Messages: 1,325

    900+ is way too heavy for a 1/2 ton with 3/4 ton springs IMO
  13. Boondox

    Boondox Senior Member
    Messages: 146

    Dave -- What you said makes perfect sense, dammit! So in the name of preserving my 02 Chevy 1500 regular cab longbed 5.3L w/ auto I've lowered my sights from the 720# Curtis to either the 630# Fisher or the 550# Blizzard 760LT. Either way I'll be better off than plowing another winter on the open Kubota. And if I mount the plow only when there's snow to move, dismounting it for the commute to work and back, maybe the old truck will give me years of service.

    So while I moan about the need to downsize...thanks.

  14. cja1987

    cja1987 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,407

    Bolts is 100% right, he seems like the kind of dealer you would want to deal with, some dealers recommend plows for 1/2 tons that are WAY too LD and others will go WAY to heavy just to make a sale. As i said bolts is correct 550 LB range is what a 1/2 ton can handel. My plow weighs 750 LBS on an F-150 Ext Cab does fine no problems BUT stick with the lighter 7'6" plows, if i had known more about plows when i got it maybe i would have thought twice however the dealer i got the truck from had a deal with the local curtis dealer so i got it for much less money. The guy i got it from knew his stuff well but at the time it was either the 460 LB 7' plow or the 750 LB 7'6" 7' was too short and here i am. Timbrens, tranny cooler, larger alternator and 37 driveways to plow no problems yet (knock on Wood). If i were to do it all again i would get a Fisher 7'6" RD although iam VERY pleased with the curtis.
  15. Bolts Indus.

    Bolts Indus. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,176

    1/2 toners. Is that a word? Anyway, you can beef up suspension but you would also have to beef up ball joints, tie rods, frame etc. Way too costly. Stick with the 550 lb. guideline.
  16. Ian03

    Ian03 Senior Member
    Messages: 105

    Bolts, good info there.....

    I have decided to go with the SnoWay MT90 on my Silverado 1500 X Cab. I have been hearing from just about everyone that a 1500 will be adequate for ligth stuff, 10-20 driveways, a couple commercial accounts, that kind of stuff.
    Thanks for the help, looks like I just need to work out the details and get me a plow.