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WTF: Canadian suppliers are rip off artists

Discussion in 'SnowDogg Snow Plows' started by buckwheat_la, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    just received a quote from the only snowdogg supplier i know of here in Alberta,

    EX 75 $5200 + another $800 for installation !!! (doesn't include any sales tax either)

    same plow at equipment specialist $3650 +shipping

    now the way i am looking at it is if this company is getting their plows direct from factory, they are paying less then the $3650 that equipment specialist sells theirs for (unless equipment specialist is selling bellow cost) and with the exchange rate almost at par, that is allowing about $1500-2000 for shipping!!!

    would love to hear a reps thoughts on this, i realize that shipping up here costs money, but i honestly believe these guys are just ripping off people, any suggestions of some places in Montana where i can look at more reasonable prices?
     
  2. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,536

    prob bcuz it cost more to get it to you canucks... and im pretty sure its not just snowdogg that charges more up north... y not to get it form esi and do it yourself
     
  3. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    i have a hard time believing it costs that much more to get a plow up here

    that was the plan, but these quys were advertising a "Winter Clearance Sale" what a joke, i am pretty sure it isn't snowdogg that is the problem here, i have a hard time believeing that the prices are that different, especially because there should be no duty on it.
     
  4. Pristine PM ltd

    Pristine PM ltd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,794

    Why would there be no duty? NAFTA? ha
     
  5. smoorman

    smoorman Sponsor
    Messages: 446

    I'll chime in only to say that I have nothing to do with pricing (thank God).

    There are a lot of legitimate discussions to be had about local dealers vs. price, and everyone has to reach their own conclusions.
     
  6. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    i checked on the duty thing, and was told that as long as it was built in the US it would be duty free, when i checked it the blade is made in the US so i figured i was good
     
  7. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    i do realize that you guys have nothing to do with the actual pricing at the counter, and i doubt you guys are charging more for plows heading north (other then additional shipping of course) it just p!sses me off that because we live up North companies up here feel they can rip people off!!! I have contemplated this for a while, i wonder how many snow plow companies would support a company like Equipment Specialist in Canada?
     
  8. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
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    Subscribed.
     
  9. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,536

    we have dealers round here that can be 4-5 hundo difference in price for the same plow....
     
  10. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    sure, give me $400-500 different but we are taking up to a couple grand
     
  11. plowman69

    plowman69 Member
    from amherst
    Messages: 53

    take a drive down to the states i know my dealer in ny has alot of customers from canada driving down for installls
     
  12. Jim@esitrucks

    Jim@esitrucks Inactive
    Messages: 1,124

    If they ordered enough in preseason the shipping is free......with the free trade act I dont think they are paying duties either...
     
  13. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    If they ordered it last spring for the dollar was in the $80's and that will make quite a difference. Also our cost of living is higher in most parts and we get paid more so it's all reletive. To call a thread"WTF: Canadian suppliers are rip off artists" Is a bit of a stretch.
    Personally if the price is within $1000 I'd buy it local.

    $3650 X 1.06 = $3869 CAN
    Shipping and Brokerage Fee's $400

    CAN Price $5200-$4269=$931

    So the difference is $931 and you havn't even tried to get them any lower on price.:rolleyes:
     
  14. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    and this is exactly what is bothering me, because if they bought enough (and being that they are the only supplier i would assume they did) to get free shipping, then with the exchange rate (say 10%) and assuming equipment specialists has a healthy mark up, that plow should be in the $4000 dollar range, NOT $5200, as far as i am a concerned a complete rip off. so when i am ready i well be looking south of the border for my equipment.
     
  15. A lot of it is lower volumes in Canada I think.

    I use some parts on my race bikes that are made in Ontario.

    They're 30% cheaper shipped to a dealer in the US then shipped back to Canada, than buying from a local dealer.

    A lot of it comes down to the Canadian distributors the dealers have to buy through. Everyone adds their markups. With Gross Margins on bike parts being around 35%, It adds up fast.
     
  16. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Preseaon the exchange rate was around was around 10% less.
     
  17. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    you missed something in there JD Dave, $3650 is what Equipment specialist is selling it for, they already have a mark up on it, so the $931 you come up with is in addition to whatever the mark up is from factory, lets say 10%-15% (wouldn't surprise me if it was more) so you can add another $365 so your total is more like $1300-$1400, and that is being optomistic IMO,


    lets take another example, BOOKS, even though the exchange rate is where it is at, and has been playing close to par for over a year now, i still open up most book sleves and see $19.99 ($34.99 CAN) all over the place!!!, i understand they had stock they needed to clear out that was purchased over a year ago, but we should be seeing better prices by now, and the really strange one, is that some companies have changed there prices, to be closer to PAR, so you can look at 2 books printed on similar dates, one well be $9.99($10.99CAN) and one well be $9.99($13.99CAN)

    I understand that some of our costs of living are higher here, and that sometimes there is more middle men involved in getting stuff up here, but I honestly believe that we also get taken advantage of with these things used as excuses.
     
  18. Pristine PM ltd

    Pristine PM ltd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,794

    Interesting Buckwheat, didn't realize that you were such a big reader!

    haha
     
  19. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    lmao, actually i am, would rather read then watch TV most times
     
  20. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    I'm not missing anything, I'm talking diference is price, I could careless what anyones cost is. Also I asked if you gave them a chance to do better on price. If I took the first offer from any deal I've had around here I would have paid more also. I bet they will come within $800 and to me that is peanuts to have local dealer support. Or am I missing something? I paid $1200 more for my Boss blade because I have a really good dealer and I want him to be here for years to come. JMO