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Would you wire a plow like this......in CHICAGO

Discussion in 'Strobe Lighting' started by Dissociative, Nov 7, 2009.

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Would you take this as good plow install??

  1. NO

    32 vote(s)
    64.0%
  2. YES

    4 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. EH, what do you expect from anyone anymore

    14 vote(s)
    28.0%
  1. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    Was helping a friend do his lights and i stumbled across this.

    He JUST had this plow installed.......by someone who i know can definitely do better than this. ussmileyflag (you know i'm right)

    Scotch locks ANYWHERE outside the garbage can IMO are a failure waiting to happen. I guess they may have their place under a dash but on the front of the truck exposed to water and salt near CHICAGO..........come on.....


    So......glue lined heat shrink replaced this......now his lights will work longer than 2 seasons..prsport

    I mean even Regional Truck uses the water proof version of the scotch lock.....not this garbage. ...:angry:
     
  2. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

  3. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    heres how i fixed it.
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    these are such junk IMO....
     
  4. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    sorry for huge pics....if anyone can resize PLEASE DO>..
     
  5. 01CTD2500

    01CTD2500 Member
    Messages: 55

    Scotchlocks are the biggest pieces of **** ever invented, every single one should be burnt and recycled into something useful like a water bottle.
     
  6. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    ok.......lets keep this going as i bet it gets interesting....
     
  7. affekonig

    affekonig Senior Member
    Messages: 909

    I'm glad that I learned to do wiring the right way early on. Those are the worst things to see when I'm looking at buying a car or truck. And a "professional" shop did this?
     
  8. SafetyLighting

    SafetyLighting Senior Member
    Messages: 601

    I make a decent amount of money fixing vehicles that have scotchloks installed, LOLOL.
     
  9. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Senior Member
    Messages: 516

    alot of plow shops use them cause they are fast and cheap and dont care

    surpised there was not a plug n play harness
     
  10. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066


    there is NEVER a plug and play for the turn signals and parking......headlights only
     
  11. Ketch

    Ketch Member
    Messages: 48

    There's a different glue-lined heat shrink connector that uses a metal alloy with a low melting point as a solder filler out there, we've been field testing them for a few years and they seem to bedoing a fantastic job so far! They work best with an additional piece of heat shrink applied over them. I think Home Depot carries them outside of the distributor networks. Anybody else used them?

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    Here's one that's been properly applied:
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    There's also a super-duper wrap-around end for heat guns just for heat shrink applications, and this company's kit has one on top of the fittings in their nifty little kit:

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    Good stuff!
     
  12. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I'm guessing that's because of the wide variety of ever-changing grill styles/designs. Plus they are low amp draw so the installers can get a way with a lousy connection......

    .......for a while.
     
  13. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Brilliant...
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2009
  14. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    The plow was installed with the parts the factory provided and following the factory's instruction. I will say they at least used the "good" tap connectors pre-loaded with di-electric grease. The di-electric ones work well for use low load use in protected areas and do not require the "specialty" tools like crimpers and heat guns in install. They allow the average guy to install the product with out tool investment and they are considerably cheaper. So as long as the customer places price over quality of install they will be the consistent choice of both manufacturers and installers.

    http://www.shop3m.com/80610596605.h...ough&WT.mc_id=3M-com-GoogleOneBox-80610596605

    They are about one third the cost of a connector like this
    I like these. you can crimp to hold things in place so you can heat it all one shot when finished assembling.

    http://www.delcity.net/store/Butt-Connectors/p_791895.a_1
     
  15. naturalgreen

    naturalgreen Senior Member
    Messages: 404

    Yeah thats how the ass that installed mine did it also. They rape you on installation here since few sell. He also connected the main power to my jumper spot(box connected to alternator) rather than to the battery has anyone seen that before. I have always gone straight to the battery and i also didnt understand this because I have dual batteries.
     
  16. 91AK250

    91AK250 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,642

    in some rare cases i'll go to that spot when installing a used wire harness, but normaly i do try to get to a battery directly. but it is said to be a safe location to pull power from so i dont think its an issue.
     
  17. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Always connect the plow motor cables directly to the battery.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2009
  18. grec-o-face

    grec-o-face Senior Member
    Messages: 485

    you've got to be kidding..
    What a HACKER!!
     
  19. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    We move them constantly and not only owner installs, though they are most common.

    And the grounds as well. they are as or more important then the postive feed.
     
  20. 91AK250

    91AK250 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,642

    we allways ground to the block, nomatter what the case is. again i and apparently my boss's that check them out see no problem with pulling from that box by the alt. i do not see why it would be an issue.