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worst season ever

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by grf_1000, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. grf_1000

    grf_1000 Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    i have been plowing for 22 years. this,by far, was the worst season. as of saturday we were 92" of snow fall behind last year. among my commerical accounts i help take care of 160 gas wells plus all of the roads getting to them. on agv. those are plowed 15 times a season and they do play perrty well. this season we struggled to plow them 5 times and most were only done 4. this really hurts the budget. i guess i'm not picking up another loader and the two other plow trucks i had intented on getting for nest season.................. just ranting ant mother nature lol
     
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Go seasonal!
     
  3. grf_1000

    grf_1000 Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    i do have a couple seasonal contracts which were the only ones that kept me going. no way in the world will the gas and oil industry do a seasonal contract. who would have ever thought in the snow belt in northern michigan that we would not even top 80' of snow fall. i checked, 2nd least amount since record keeping lol
     
  4. Lux Lawn

    Lux Lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,137

    I think the best is to have a combination of per push and seasonal.
    I do almost everything on a seasonal contract & would like to get more by the push. That way I would have a little motivation to go out.
     
  5. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    X2

    I moved a couple over to seasonal this past winter, really glad I did. But I still would have been happier with 15 more storm to bill out on the resis.....
     
  6. swtiih

    swtiih PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,179

    Decent year here in the Chicago area. Seems like South and East coast got hit hardest.
    I would agree a combination of both is a good safe guard, or all seasonals if they are priced right.
     
  7. maintenanceman

    maintenanceman Member
    Messages: 32

    just as bad here, only had four billable events. thank goodness that the construction side is still going strong.
     
  8. quigleysiding

    quigleysiding PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,099

    Crappy year here too. Made less than half of what we made last year. There"s always next year.
     
  9. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    last year, we had one of the best years we have ever had,,,,,,this year,,,,,,,we had about 1/4 of what we did last year. Thank GOD for seasonal contracts.
     
  10. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,037

    Thank god for seasonals is right. However I think I'm going to see a massive decline in seasonals in this up coming season. Thankfully I give 3 different pricing options for my customers. I would rather them pick their poison rather then forcing one option upon them and losing them.
     
  11. Mick76

    Mick76 2000 Club Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,157

    Ryan,
    Just "remind" them of the total snow from the 3 previous years... In my area just north of you was 91" last year (above normal) and 132" 2 years ago (way above normal)..... This is the selling point I use to get seasonals that are on the fence.

    And yes have the combo of seasonal and per push is the way to go.... I like 60% seasonal and 40% per push myself. JMO
     
  12. Montosi82

    Montosi82 Member
    Messages: 62

    Repoman,

    You said you give three payment options. Seasonal, Per Push, and what is your third option? Is it per inch?

    We also had a slow year in MA. Made more money last year with half the accounts. Deffinately going to try for some seasonals next year.
     
  13. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,037


    Absolutely right, I threw a little "sticky note" onto my pricing page this year for just that reason. Check it out:


    snow.jpg



    Actually, I offer per event, per season, and per season with a cap per event.

    snow.jpg
     
  14. Montosi82

    Montosi82 Member
    Messages: 62

    I like your pricing sheet.

    Thanks for the info
     
  15. Sydenstricker Landscaping

    Sydenstricker Landscaping PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,882

    This year seemed slower here since it was spread out from the end of December to the end of February. I had 25 total pushes on everything. Last year I plowed 20 times alone in January, but only once in February. I think our seasonal total was 130 inches, which is about normal here in the lake effect area. Didnt really get any big whoppers of a storm, which I am not complaining about. I try to keep everything 50/50 each year with seasonals and per push. Helps keep everything afloat and makes budgeting much easier
     
  16. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    The good news is we have a bunch of money coming in on our seasonal contracts that we didn't have to do very much for, the bad news is that all my residences are complaining, i hope we get a huge snowfall in April, because i am not touching a single place that hasn't paid for March.
     
  17. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    I have never sean a Winter like this and I hope I never se another on like this.
     
  18. Snow Bandit

    Snow Bandit Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    Its the middle of march, and not a flake of snow to be found anywhere. I might have worked 60 hours all winter.
     
  19. Mackman

    Mackman PlowSite.com Addict
    from S.E. PA
    Messages: 1,356

    Best year ever for the history of philly. :nod: Paid off my new fisher and western salter:drinkup:
     
  20. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    You guys crushed it down there.....