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Wideout wing loose/flopping?

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by BIGSTEVE, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. BIGSTEVE

    BIGSTEVE Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    Have a brand new wideout that I Love! The right side wing when extended seems to be loose/flopping? Took back to dealer, and they havent seen this before. They tried tightening the spring adjuster that puts tension on the wing and it held for two days. Now I'm back to floppy wing. It still functions ok but obviously something isn't right. Anyone have knowledge or experience with this problem? I want to bring it back in Monday morning with an idea of what to tell the dealer. Please advise....
     
  2. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    Loose and floppy like it rattles up and down or loose as in it springs back "closed"? One of my wideouts has a small valve leak and it starts to move on its own sometimes. But if yours shakes and rattles, that's a different problem. You need to check the backside of the moldboard. the wing runs in a slot. It could be bent or twisted or even a weld broken.
     
  3. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Look at the stopper bolt at the end of the wing tube. It's a 1/2 NC hex head bolt that the wing hits to make it flip forward. If that bolt is loose the wing will flop. Also look at the pin the wing swings on.
     
  4. BIGSTEVE

    BIGSTEVE Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    On Friday the dealer took the stopper pin out... Extended wing out past stopper bolt and visually inspected. Everything put back together. They tightened the tensioner spring for the wing and that tightened it back up. But now it's loose again in extended position. Not in scoop position.
     
  5. racer47

    racer47 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    tuned in on this one .I just bought 1.love it .gave it a beaten all day , didn't miss a lick .
     
  6. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    If anyone wants to see what can go wrong with a wideout, let me know. they aren't bullet proof. They have their flaws. Trust me
     
  7. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Perhaps the threads on the spring tension bolts are stripped and the spring is no longer tight. If tightening the spring fixed it the first time.
    I had s Wide-out for years. Was a great plow but they are more delicate than a simple straight blade or a V.
     
  8. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,963

    Is there a lock nut on the spring.eyebolt?
     
  9. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    There is no jam-nut from the factory, just a single nut, probably a nylock. The mechanics guide says tighten the nut until 3/4 inches of threads show.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2015
  10. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,963

    Lock nut, nylock, wizlock, or a jam nut. It needs a non normal bolt.
    I usually tighten till the spring expanding, then install, and try and move the wing by hand. If it don't move forward...it's good.
     
  11. BIGSTEVE

    BIGSTEVE Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    We tightened it until it didn't move anymore. It actually measured out to be about 1.25" in on threads. It has now loosened two days later
     
  12. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Perhaps the spring is stretched now?
     
  13. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,963

    1.25 from where? And what about locking type nut? Did it actually back off
     
  14. BIGSTEVE

    BIGSTEVE Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    We tightened until 1.25" of thread showing. Nut did not back off
     
  15. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,963

    I'm sure it didn't back off after you tightend it, but after a few uses it will. So that's why I asked about a locking type nut