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Wideout Stuck

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by rcpd34, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. rcpd34

    rcpd34 Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 670

    So I bought a used Wideout yesterday. Been sitting in the yard for a year. Hooked it up and everything works fine except the right wing won't extend. It scoops, but won't slide out. Any suggestions before I pull the cylinder pin and try to hammer it out?
     
  2. ScubaSteve728

    ScubaSteve728 Senior Member
    Messages: 477

    drop it a few times and press the retract button.
    then try dropping it on a flat 2x4 if it won't work. Then try the hammer haha
     
  3. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Doesn't it have to extend to go into full scoop? Man that could be anything from something stuck in there to a bad valve. I'd try gently tapping it out.
     
  4. rcpd34

    rcpd34 Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 670

    Guy says it would occasionally do this when cold. My Blizzard did too. It needs a bit of wire wheel and paint...
     
  5. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,946

    Pull the pin. Could be rusted inside.
     
  6. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Your area isn't very cold though (I would imagine) now. Sounds like it's just froze up, I'd try working it loose and if and when it comes loose I'd change out the fluid for sure.
     
  7. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    I'm with Brian. It has to extend in order to scoop. I'm confused.
     
  8. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,507

    It is physically impossible to do what you're describing, can you clarify?

    Sounds like it won't retract, but there must be some movement for it to extend and flatten out, is that the correct assumption I'm making?
     
  9. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,946

    Guys it's not impossible. If the the slide is frozen, i.e. cold or rust then the only action is to curl the wing out. Happens a lot on my blizzard. So either his is frozen, or the slide is rusted, or there's damage.
     
  10. rcpd34

    rcpd34 Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 670

    It's definitely not fully extended and it does flip out to scoop and back; it just won't extend. Wing will not budge in or out and inch. Only the scoop flips in and out.
     
  11. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,946

    Pull the wing cylinder pin, and the allen bolt and try to manually pull the wing assm out.
     
  12. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Never thought it could do that...hummm, good luck with it.
     
  13. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,507

    Hello.... brain fart here, you are 100% correct
     
  14. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,946

    Your allowed one. After that the beatings will commence
     
  15. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    Learn something new every day!

    Same here.

    Beating on a 73 year old man makes no sense.
     
  16. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    If the wing is moving into scoop (as it can and will) the ram is extending so it's not a hydraulic issue. It's a seized slide box. Look at this link http://library.westernplows.com/westernplows/pdffiles/49590.05_050114.pdf page 4, item 10. Disconnect the two hoses, pull out pin #7 and the stopper bolt #12 then the whole slider box assembly with the wing and spring will come out in one pice. DON'T take the tension off the spring, you don't have to but it looks like you do,,,, take my word for it.... You may need a bobcat to yank it out if it is that badly seized that the hydraulics won't slide it. :nod:
     
  17. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,587

    We had to use a prota power on one of ours to jack it out.
     
  18. Hysert

    Hysert PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,257

    And I thought lubricating the box was over kill? I would try blasting some penitrated spray in thr before using something mechanical to break it free
     
  19. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,946

    I pull both my wings and slide box's out every year on my blizzard. And I did that on the companys as well. It's not overkill IMO
     
  20. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,587

    Mine wasn't a rust problem but more of bent or torn metal. The cylinder pushed it out but it strained then we had to jack it out to fix the problem.