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Who makes a 4-5yard electric salt spreader thats over 8' long?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Ramairfreak98ss, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,905

    We have 4 yard SaltDogg sphe4000s.. One in our 12' landscape body sits so far back, b/c its only 96" or so, that literally the entire 4 yard box sits on top of the rear axle and rearward... theres about 4 feet from the front of the spreader to the bulkhead and when loaded to the gills with salt, it tilts the 12' body back, as if i unhooked the lift hydraulic piston, it would just tilt on its a$$... the 200" wb F550 front even looks lifted until i put the plow on. Its BAD weight distribution. I'd like to put this in another truck we get in the future and find something that sits MORE of the weight of salt in front of the axle too.

    Has to be all electric, no gas drives. Ill attach a photo later:)
     
  2. GreenLeafPA

    GreenLeafPA Junior Member
    Messages: 9

  3. mc1

    mc1 Senior Member
    Messages: 171

    4-5 yards of bulk salt is way too much . i have a 3 yard salter on a 550 5yards would not kill truck but it would make me real nervous
     
  4. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    Just convert a gas or central unit over to electric.
     
  5. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    swenson spreaders
     
  6. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    How is 4 yards too much for a 19,500 truck, truck is 8, salts 8 salters 1 leaves you with 2,500 left
     
  7. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Smith Spreaders
     
  8. Red Bull Junkie

    Red Bull Junkie Senior Member
    Messages: 159

    New SHPE 6000.
     
  9. Maclawnco

    Maclawnco Senior Member
    from OH
    Messages: 628

    downeaster makes their mid sized 3-4.5 yd spreaders in all electric but dont list them on the website. I run a 4.5 yard box full on my 15000 lb gvw 450!

    OP, you can solve your problem by going to a heavy truck shop and have them add leaves to your truck. We have 4 extra on the 450.
     
  10. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,905

    i saw that :p ... overloaded YES!
     
  11. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,905

    its not a weight on the axle issue.. its squating the back but im not worried about the squat as much as the fact its lifting so much weight off the front axle.. just a bad weight loading of the carried load :/ heres a pic to get an idea

    Its an ABC Landscaper 12' body... It only takes up the back 8ft worth which is basically on top and behind the whole rear axle... a 9ft mason dump would probably put it more in front of the axle. I can only physically slide the spreader into the body maybe 1 to 1.5" before its hitting the chute.

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    Last edited: Jan 24, 2012
  12. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,905

    depends on the body i guess... this F550 weights about 12,200 empty... 12' body, 200" wb, diesel, 4x4, body is about 2600lbs they say, has extra box on passenger side so thats about 100lbs with some stuff in it and its a crew cab.

    So technically, 7300lbs and its at capacity lol.

    I do agree though 4yards of salt is roughly 8000lbs give or take and spreader is 1000....

    We've had this truck loaded with 5-6 tons of rock, aggregate etc. before and being way over its "limit", it didnt squat or drive ass heavy like it does with the spreader all the way back there behind the axle. I rolled off the scale before at 23,900, nearly 6ton of stone, but some of that weight was on the front axle, even distribution.

    If this truck was a single cab/gas... OMG it would probably just lift the front axle off the ground ...ever see a repo tow truck, gas/single cab/141" wb lift up a 6000lb SUV... yeah the front like that is whats unsafe.
     
  13. Red Bull Junkie

    Red Bull Junkie Senior Member
    Messages: 159

    LOL. when you have a weight problem....just add more weight. :)
     
  14. alsam116

    alsam116 Senior Member
    Messages: 216

    yea couldnt you take a skid of bagged salt and put it in front of the spreader where the side door is open on the body? if you have to slide the spreader back a few inches to get the skid in do that.
    just a thought.
     
  15. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Wizard has a 10 ft one and I do think it's the nicest electric I've ever seen. He says it works perfect.
     
  16. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    from Ontario
    Messages: 3,589

    Equifab 10'

    RAM 5500 Equifab.jpg
     
  17. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    Smith make them, there is a used one on the Rochester craigslist
     
  18. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
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    lol, actually from the front bulkhead of the 12' body to the front of the spreader is 5'... so the whole spreader sits on the rear 7ft of the body.
     
  19. concreteguy

    concreteguy Senior Member
    Messages: 130

    The problem is that the fuel tank sits behind the axles so the back of the bed has to clear that and the spring perch, the bed is too long in this application. It's like you need a spreader where the drag chain is added to and the sub-frame of the salter is added to so you can slide the salter in further, so its in front of the axles more and still have the shoot hanging off the truck. Sounds like some work to modify, would have to be a metal v-box not plastic. Any body think a fab shop could lengthen the sub-frame and add some links to a drag chain, then re-attach the shoot
     
  20. NEUSWEDE

    NEUSWEDE Senior Member
    Messages: 949

    Call Downeaster in Topsham Maine and they will custom make any spreader spec'd to what you want. They could easily make you a longer lower profile one. I looked at doing the same for my F650 the only down side is harder sell when if you upgrade to something else.