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Where did the terms; 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton come from?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by mkwl, Oct 6, 2007.

  1. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361

    I'm wondering, where did the truck terminology 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, and 1 ton come from? Anyone know the history behind these terms use?

    Matt
     
  2. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    it is the amount of weight you can put in a FORD before the frame bust LOL

    seriously i think it used to have to do with the bed cap weight but i dont know anymore
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    HUummmm
    I winder what the # 1500, #2500, #3500 means?

    Then look in the door jam and read the sticker.
    gvwr
     
  4. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    im confused there is #3500 in a ton ?
     
  5. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
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    ;) im confused there is #3500 in a ton ? it must be the canadian exchange rate
    i wonder if a 1949 ford F-3 held #3000 and a 2008 F-350 holds #3500?
     
  6. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    The 1st number represents the series number of the truck for the assembly lines.

    Chassis/frame series 1 -2 3-4-5-6 /100 - 200 - 300 /1000 -2000 -3000...etcetera and so on.

    It makes parts identification and how they stock parts much easier in the factories.

    Each step up indicates a heavier duty package in frame size and parts used over all.

    Where they got the 500 part of it I am not sure but I am sure the 5 stands for something to them.

    1/2 -3/4 - 1 - 1.5(F450) ton is the supposed weight limit that the truck is safely built to handle as far as axle weight and brakes and steering components. I am sure it shields them some what or some how if a over weight truck is in a accident a person can not sue the manufacture for the truck being over weight as they have a limit set for the owners.
     
  7. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    Humm look in th door jam for the gvwr.

    I remember when they were F100 f200 f300 & W100 W200 W300
    or 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton
    then f150 f250 f350 & w150 w250 w 350
    then 1500, 2500, 3500 or a 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton

    Again look in the door jam each truck even in the same f150 or whatever truck it has it's own GVWR depending how it is optioned.

    Once apon a time a 1/2 ton truck was rated to
    carry just that 1/2 a ton.

    Now a 3/4 ton or a 2500 can
    have a gvwr of 8800lb not exactly a 3/4 ton .
    Depending how it is optioned you can carry well over 2500 lb
     
  8. deere615

    deere615 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,919

    :D Thats a good one!
     
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    :rolleyes:
    So, where would you find the bed cap weight listed?
    I have never seen this any where in or on a truck
    and I have owned 46,47,68,70,74,79,80, 81, 92, 98 and 01
    yet I have never seen this bed cap?

    you mean the GVW.... R rating
     
  10. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361

    I could be wrong, but I think the GVWR on my 2500HD is 9200lbs.
     
  11. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361


    LOL LOL LOL- good call on the ford LOL!:dizzy:
     
  12. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    well that explains it snowfarmer the only years they put bed cap on the gvw sticker was 1945,1948-67,1969,1971-73,1975-78,1982-91,1993-97 and 1998up except for 01. it wasent you trying to heat things up it was just that you did'nt have that year of truckLOL

    but seriously the orig q was where did the title come from i think we got off topic a little so snowfarmer i know you want everybody to look at their gvw tag but please stay focusedLOL
     
  13. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    :rolleyes: :blush2: :blush2:
    focus, focus, nope, not working.....
     
  14. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    It refers to the number of ridiculous claims the marketing people make about the trucks capacity.:rolleyes:
     
  15. Duracutter

    Duracutter Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 200

    hehe... if you read the papers lately, the Canadian dollar is $1.02 for each us dollar.
    :eek: eek: :p

    tymusic
     
  16. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,586

    GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) and GW (Gross Weight) are interchangeable terms meaning the actual weight of the vehicle (trailer) and its complete load. This weight can be determined by loading the horses, tack, feed, and hay etc. into the fully equipped trailer (mats, spare tire, etc.) and taking it to a truck scale to have it weighed. Most gravel yards or truck stops have truck scales.

    GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weigh Rating) is the value specified by the manufacturer as the recommended maximum loaded weight of a single vehicle. For a trailer this value is determined by the axle capacity and the coupler capacity. For example, a trailer will be rated at 5000 lbs. GVWR by the manufacturer if it has two 2500 lb. axles and a 2 inch ball coupler that is rated 5000 lbs. Loading the trailer to excess of the GVWR is not only unsafe, but is illegal.

    GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) is the value specified by the manufacturer as the recommended maximum loaded weight of a combination of vehicles. (The GVWR of the tow vehicle plus the GVWR of the trailer.) In the absence of a value specified by the manufacturer, GCVWR will be determined by adding the GVWR of the power unit and the total weight of the towed unit and any load thereon.

    Don't know why they are refered to as --- tons though.
     
  17. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Ginkgo Bola?:jester:
     
  18. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518