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Whats too heavy for a Dodge front end?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by NickColetti, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. NickColetti

    NickColetti Member
    Messages: 49

    I am in a pickle here... i have the option of a 9'2" and a 8'2" poly Boss V and i have a much better deal worked out for the bigger blade. I have to act fast (within tonight) on which one im going to take but im worried that if i go with the 9', that it'll be to heavy for my front end. I have a 05 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 5.9 diesel engine. I know that the diesel engine is not helping in my weight situation, either.

    I used to have a 7.5 Boss straight blade and that seemed heavy to me, but maybe it was just me.

    Anyone plow with 9'2" V's with a unmodified 4x4 Dodge truck?

    Any fast info would be GREATLY appreciated! Thumbs Up
     
  2. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    I have been running a 9'2" on my truck for 4 winters. I put about 800 lbs of sand and salt in the back of the bed and it works great. If you can get the 9'2" for less money I'd say go for it. I have no modifications to my truck other than the engine.
     
  3. oldmankent

    oldmankent PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,318

    Just get the bigger plow and beef up the front end
     
  4. NickColetti

    NickColetti Member
    Messages: 49

    Well as luck has it... im ending the day without either of them. Its a long story, but both guys ended up screwing me in a way so my search still continues.

    One of the guys was saying how much he hated plowing with a 9' plow. He said that there were some drive-through's he was not able to make it through while plowing, along with not being able to put it completely in the V position with the curb gauge cutting edges because they scraped, and oviously the extra weight compared to the 8'. It scared me to hear it considering i have only plowed with a 7.5 straight blade on my truck.

    Im still searching for a plow and i guess now after hearing JD, i may not pass a 9' up if it comes along.

    Thanks, guys!
     
  5. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    What mods do you have on your Cummins? Just wondering what it takes to come up with those numbers. Thanks :)
     
  6. NickColetti

    NickColetti Member
    Messages: 49

    Compared to some of the fellas that i hang out with on one of those Dodge forums.... my truck is still wet behind the ears!:D

    The one main upgrade that i did that brought me past 400 hp was the Smarty programmer. That thing is INSANE! When i was on the rollers, i only had it set to the 60hp + timing- it goes up to 120hp (but many modifications are needed to use it).

    I also have the S&B air intake, open exhaust with a straight through muffler (AeroXL), and a CFM+ intake manifold.

    If only i had a upgraded transmission, i would be able to get a few other parts that would open all sorts of doors!

    My goal is getting to a reliable 500hp. But who knows when ill be able to get there...

    Whats goin on with your truck? What's all done to it?
     
  7. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    Sounds awesome man.

    I also have a Smarty. I always leave it on 9 but I usually run the POD setting on 75% to cut down on smoke. I also have an MP-8 pressure box hooked up. I have an AFE intake and the AFE BladeRunner intake elbow as well. I cut off the cat and replaced the muffler with one from Silverline. I also have an Engineered Diesel turbo, 64/68/14. It keeps things below 1300 EGT almost all the time, even with the Smarty on 9. Oh yeah and don't forget about the HTS transmission, with basically every upgrade except the intermediate shaft and the output shaft. I built it up that way over a few years. Oh yeah and a full rack of gauges too make sure nothing gets out of hand hahahah Thumbs Up
     
  8. NickColetti

    NickColetti Member
    Messages: 49

    Yeah... you dont sound like someone that is new to the game! Haha!

    Your truck sounds mean! Have you ever put it on the rollers yet to see where you're at?

    I bet that's shes a pretty wild machine to be plowing with...
     
  9. BlackKnight07

    BlackKnight07 Member
    Messages: 56

    :cry: One day I'll get a Diesel might be a Car but Dammit it will be Diesel, till then i'll deal with my Gasser F150...Sad i know....

    Till then, i'll just read about all the Diesel toys out there...So thank you!
     
  10. TPC Services

    TPC Services Senior Member
    Messages: 875

    I have a 8'2" V an have gone through 2 front ends under warrenty thank good. like the one guy said you better beef up your front end . other wise you will be replace tie rod ends, sway bars upper & lower ball joints Dodge front ends can not handle V plows!!!!!,
     
  11. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    ^^^^^^^ There wouldn't be a difference whether there were a plow or not! Hahahaha.

    As far as heavy plows are concerned, I'm going to one up everybody (including myself so far) this year and put all 1,400 lbs of a Blizzard 8611 full size on my 95 1 ton Dodge. Wish me luck.
     
  12. plowguy43

    plowguy43 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,269

    No, Factory Dodge front end replacement parts can't handle Vplows or just driving around in general. Upgrade to Moog/XRF/Spicer/Carli/Dynatech and be done with it.

    The Dodge will laugh at that plow while your pathetic GM's blow a few injectors and crack their frames just thinking about it LOL kidding! On the seventh day God didn't rest, he built Dodge Trucks- true story. :nod::bday::waving:
     
  13. wideout

    wideout Senior Member
    from iowa
    Messages: 727

    I have had a wideout on my 06 dodge diesel for 2 years now and have not had to replace anything yet and just had it aligned the other day the mechanic said everything is still tight on the front end.
     
  14. NickColetti

    NickColetti Member
    Messages: 49

    Yeah... sounds like Dodge front ends have their weakness, but its nothing i have not heard from Ford. Everyone has their ups and down, but ill take a solid engine over everything else, any day. I come from a Ford family, but the Cummins won me over.

    As far as Chevy/GM goes... i dont care how many rocks you look under- Dodge wins! :p
     
  15. TPC Services

    TPC Services Senior Member
    Messages: 875

    Do you push up over curbs??

    Fords have a hell of a lot beefier front end then dodge or chevy's do. I have not heard anyone really complain about have to mod there ford front ends up.
     
  16. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    Wanna bet? I do ;)

    And I disagree. Dodges are pretty equal when they're new. Both get weaker with miles and age and start to sag. Have you driven a newer Dodge? My buddie has an 07 and I was pretty impressed. It's pretty stout.
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2011
  17. muddbog

    muddbog Junior Member
    from Germany
    Messages: 10

    I've got an 07 Mega cab 1500 5.7 hemi with a 2011 8' 6" Western MVP Plus, all Mega cabs have the same frame, drivetrain, suspension as the 2500's. I do think the Mega has soft ride springs in it though. I did install Firestone Level-rite Air shocks in the front as I had a lot of sag... wonder why... I also upgraded the Steering linkage to the cummins linkage. Ball joints are next.
     
  18. plowguy43

    plowguy43 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,269

    Its not soft ride springs, etc its the fact that you basically have a quad cab long bed truck - the longest/heaviest version of that truck available. Factor that in, then toss a plow on it and it will sag more than a regular quad cab/short bed truck.

    And Yes I know the Mega Cab has a 6' box, my point is merely the size/length of the frame & truck itself.
     
  19. muddbog

    muddbog Junior Member
    from Germany
    Messages: 10

    that was somewhat a joke... LOL That friggen plow is heavy!
     
  20. wideout

    wideout Senior Member
    from iowa
    Messages: 727