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Whats a better plow a snow-way vs a western

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by RIDERITE, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. RIDERITE

    RIDERITE Junior Member
    from CHICAGO
    Messages: 14

    I m looking at a 8'6 western ultramount plow vs a 8' snow-way plow with down pressure. Any advice on which is better , why or any info would help
     
  2. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    what is "down pressure"?
     
  3. RIDERITE

    RIDERITE Junior Member
    from CHICAGO
    Messages: 14

    Its from what i understand 250 lbs of pressure pushing on the blade leaving less pressure on truck. And the blade is lighter than a western
     
  4. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    call me a newb, but i guess i dont get it. any plow would only have as much down pressure as what the plow weighs.

    but in my noobish opinion this is what you need to ask yourself

    1. can your truck handle the wider heavier plow? if not the question is already answers.
    2. the wider heavier plow will perform better, but at a cost of wear on your truck, does the plowing you do justify the extra wear on the truck?
    3. price, but remember a good tool is worth the good money.
     
  5. kimber750

    kimber750 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,677

    The big advantage of "down pressure" is back dragging. It adds an additional 250 lbs of down force over the weight of the plow.
     
  6. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992



    New Snoway? If so then you have

    the ability to add scoop wings increasing the blade to 9'6"
    Wireless controls
    ESi headlight system. (no relays. modules, iso-module, switches or other consumable parts) http://www.snoway.com/index.cfm/act/eis
    Down Pressure.
    direct lift with all it's advantages (instant lift response, quieter, easier traveling, and down pressure


    Not necessary :nono: http://www.snoway.com/index.cfm/act/downpressure
     
  7. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    so they have a hydrolic acuator pushing down on the plow as well as one that pushes up to lift?

    less tired now. can think better

    if this is the case i, personally, would not do this with a light truck. 250 lbs pushing the plow down, means 250 lbs pushing the truck up. that would mean less weight on the tires and less traction.

    weather that is an issue or not depends on the truck and tires. i certainly would not do this with a smaller truck as those front tires need traction.

    what do the more exprienced think?
     
  8. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    The 2 plows you are talking about What look at are lite weight plows so down pressure would help
    Western will stack higher vs Snow-way
    Down pressure will be harder on the truck when you hit something
    Back dragging down pressure be super thing to have
     
  9. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Yes what do the more experienced think, help us newbies out.

    Yes, Down pressure is a wonderful thing when backdragging
     
  10. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    if back dragging is the goal, wouldent a back drag blade be the ultimate benificiary peice of equipment?

    if anyone is interested i can provide a link to a custom back drag blade that looks to be superior to westerns oem. in design and price.
     
  11. icudoucme

    icudoucme Senior Member
    Messages: 349

    My family switched from Western to Sno-way back in 1994. You can back drag so much more snow without compacting it as much as a western, you can scrape up compacted snow alot better then a chain lift(with down pressure) It's lighter then the western which means less gas. You do not loose traction with down pressure. When down pressure is activated you can actually plow in 2wd with out any problems. I run my 94 with no ballast and with down pressure I can plow a small lot in 2wd.

    I can stack snow about 2 feet taller then my truck. I think thats around 10'. It stacks higher then a fisherXV. My buddy has a fleet of them(8) and I wanted to buy one(XV) so we compared stacking heights. The lots that I do don't have alot of snow storage pace and the customers won't pay for snow hauling. my stacks where about 2feet higher then his.

    Currently I have an 8' 29 series that is 7 years old(on 04 Chevy 2500hd) and an 8.5 predator plow 12 years old on a (94 Chevy K2500).
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2011
  12. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    what is the weight of the snow way vs western?

    if the snowway is 100+250dp = 350
    would be the same as a 350 western only without the loss of traction.

    im sure the snowwaybis more than 100 itself unless made of plastic
     
  13. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    wish i could have bought my setup from a dealer, would have made it install with many fewer head achs sota speak.
     
  14. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    If all you did was back drag yes. But when you want to clean up pack downed snow, frozen trailing, scrape cleaner or any of the number of other times Dp is beneficial.
     
  15. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    does snowway offer a back blade. with or without dp i sure would never go without one if i had a choice. wonder if the guy's back blade here in mi would fit it. do you have a pic of the snowway in question?
     
  16. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Subscribed
     
  17. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    I see it different on stacking I hire a sub his snow-way wont stack as high as my western chain lift plows
     
  18. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    So what you're saying is that your plow will go higher than your plow stops?

    Wow, the only time I've seen that happen is after something really bad has happened to the truck mount.

    These the exact same trucks, tires, etc? Same operator?
     
  19. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    http://www.snoway.com/index.cfm/act/plow/s/32

    though this is my favorite

    http://www.snoway.com/index.cfm/act/plow/s/37
     
  20. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516