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What would you bill and what units?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by 496 BB, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. 496 BB

    496 BB Senior Member
    Messages: 789

    Ok for the past few years Ive been in charge of a pretty good sized company's sidewalk crews for removal and salting. Its not my regular job as Im a remodeler but I did it to help out a neighbor who didnt have anyone to do it and it went from there. I have since been replaced by some south of the border men for the past two years. No big deal as we are busy anyways. I recently have been contacted by a property management Co. we do alot of work for to possibly figure up a price for them as the current crew is not performing AT ALL. Imagine....someone not wanting to work. Seems the norm around here these days. Id love to take it over as its more money and you can never have too much! Wife and kids arent cheap :laughing:

    Anyways I have no idea how to even go about bidding this. What I was planning on doing is using a walking measure wheel and see how many feet I can walk in 15 minutes simulating and taking into account I would be using a blower and also if I would have to make two passes or one depending on width of sidewalk. I would then times this number by 4 and add 5% for cushion of the unknown (car in way, snow drift, ect...) to get my hourly measurement. Then measure out the remainder of the place and divide by whatever my 1 hour measurement is then times that by my pricing (if its done by hourly of course). Sorry left out some info....this place is a pretty big and very broken up (in terms of no straight runs) apt complex.

    My question is what should I really charge and by what unit? I was always paid hourly before and Im sure this company will not do that as they are cheap asses. What should I charge for salting? Better yet what should I use for salting? Was using something I think called Fire and Ice???? Or thereabouts. I really like doing this stuff for some odd reason but I dont want to short change myself as it is hard work and miserable at times.

    Any help would be appreciated guys. Thanks!
     
  2. snobgone

    snobgone Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 122

    Go to Sima.org and you can get production rates and estimating methods. Are you just applying to walks or parking lots too? We get anywhere between 150 and 200 a yard installed for bulk material and 30 a bag installed for ice melt (50#bag).
     
  3. 496 BB

    496 BB Senior Member
    Messages: 789

    Just walks. Thanks for the link I will try that!

    What method do you use for charging for clearing the walks? And what rate?
     
  4. snobgone

    snobgone Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 122

    Depends on your overhead and insurance and what you will be using. 35 per hour for a shoveler and 50 for a blower and operator. 65 for an atv with plow. I think the production rates are 1200 sq feet for shovel, 1600 for blower and 5000 sq ft for atv off the top of my head. That site will have it. It also depends on stairs, hydrants, overall level of difficulty.
     
  5. 496 BB

    496 BB Senior Member
    Messages: 789

    So for a blower your saying the standard is $50 for every 1600 sqft? Im not trying to be ignorant here but rather just trying to get ahold of all of this....this is all new to me. I know how to do it obviously just not how to bid....yet ;)
     
  6. snobgone

    snobgone Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 122

    Yes but please check out that site. It depends on the size blower, etc. There should be an area called production rates. I did see someone post it on here too. If u can't find it, let me know and I will post it for u. Can't rite now cuz I'm remote.
     
  7. 496 BB

    496 BB Senior Member
    Messages: 789

    Yea you have to pay to be a member there and Im not that far along yet in this :D