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What to buy to run a 12' pusher

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by NoFearDeere, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. NoFearDeere

    NoFearDeere PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,715

    Wondering all the experts think...will a John Deere 83hp 4x4 tractor push a 12' box without problems? Trying to figure out if I should look for a used payloader or buy a tractor that I can use for other things. Whatever it is will have a 12' pusher and the pushes will sometimes be long, but not too long.
     
  2. PhilFromErie

    PhilFromErie Senior Member
    Messages: 263

    I guess if it was me it would depend on how much summer work I had for the tractor. How would you mount it to the tractor? Personally I wold never want to put a box on a AG loader and if your going to make some custom mount its getting kind of late. Id much rather push it with a loader, you'll be able to steer, push better and be able to stack with it too.
     
  3. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    I think its more about the weight of the tractor rather then the hp.
    I have a Deere 5083e and the biggest blade they would recommend and sell was
    the horst 9to15 snowwing 3200 series with the frame mount parallel lift.

    I think with a 12ft box full you would want a 10 000lbs machine to go any long distance.

    the difference between the loader and the frame mount is substancial from what I have read online. the frame mount can move more snow

    in no way am I an expert. maybe next year :jester:
     
  4. NoFearDeere

    NoFearDeere PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,715

    The 5083E is the tractor im looking at.
     
  5. PhilFromErie

    PhilFromErie Senior Member
    Messages: 263

    I honestly don't think a 5083 will push a 12 foot box worth a cramp. Even if you can you'll be steering with nothing but the brakes. I would use a 444 size Deere loader or a 544.
     
  6. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    The rear tires are loaded also.
    I have seen a few for sale with 8ft and 10ft pushers on the loader arms So I think that is more realistic but like I said I have heard many say you wont steer well and there is talk of bending ect.

    if you need the ability to switch to a bucket then you cant run under frame mount.

    I like the 9ft because I can actually get in a between two trailers in a loading dock easily

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  7. NoFearDeere

    NoFearDeere PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,715

    Thats the info im looking for. My thoughts were should i spend 45k on a new tractor and have fewer breakdowns and be able to use it in the summer of spend 15k less on a payloader and only use it for snow and might have more problems. But sounds like I would be better off with a loader, more power and meant for pushing snow
     
  8. erkoehler

    erkoehler PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,268

    My buddy is selling an international loader for $15k, nice condition and ready to work. Pm me for his info.