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What size allen wrench for escape calipers?

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by MickiRig1, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,617

    Doing front brakes on my Wife's 08 Escape. I have spent the day trying to figure out the size of the Allen head bolts. They are enclosed in little protective shields with caps. They is a raised edge above the Allen sockets. Real hard to get to or see. A 3/8's sloppy, a 10mm sloppy, 12mm & 1/2in no fit. There 1/2 sizes? Another special "Ford Tool"? Sears and Napa have up to 3/8's "Caliper bits"
     
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    try the 9mm.
     
  3. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,617

    Bigger then a 10mm. Which is the bigest size they sell. A 12mm is way too big. Went thru all the mm and SAE sizes. That's why I wonder is there are 1/2 sizes or a Ford size?
     
  4. eludemann

    eludemann Member
    Messages: 37

    Could it be torx?
     
  5. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,659

    11mm? Or as stated above maybe a torx head.
     
  6. GVL LLC

    GVL LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 121

    there are 1/2 in allen wrenches so its probably a 10.5
     
  7. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
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    I tell you this has just drove me crazy! Every size I could find does not work! I am not going to JuryRig the Wife's brakes! Every post on the Net Says 9mm. It's NOT! I have a 10mm and it does not fit. It has no grip, all slop. A 3/8's just grips very little. A 10mm is just a hair bigger. THANKS FORD!
     
  8. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    they are 9mm hex bit on the slides Like Grandview said
    To remove cage that's 18mm wrench So you can pull the bake rotor to get them turned
    Most sets don't come with a 9mm

    Google it you will find the answer you want
     
  9. GVL LLC

    GVL LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 121

    I found this out the annoying way too when putting new locking hubs on my truck. A 4 was too small and a 5 was too big so i had to go to the store and find out myself that 1/2 exist and a 4.5 fit perfectly.
     
  10. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
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    A 10mm does not work. It has to be 10&1/2 or 11mm. I went all thru the sizes. A 9mm would not even fit. Been down this road with Fords. Not the first time at the rodeo. It's after market or something? My Wife works part time at a Ford dealer. She gets great prices on service. This is the 3rd set of pads. Someone replaced the pins with non-standard pins?
     
  11. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Some replacement guide pins are 11mm and after three brake jobs they've probably been changed. But don't even remove them, the pads can be replaced with the bracket still on the caliper. So remove the two 18mm bolts and remove the complete caliper/bracket as an assembly.
     
  12. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
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    My sister has the same 08 escape I replace the pads on I know its a 9mm for the slides

    Someone must replace your OEM slides with after market I say
    Best thing to do get a allen bit little big and grind it to fit
    Make sure grind it on a bench grinder a hand grinder will heat it up to much
     
  13. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
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    We had an 08 Escape also and I'm thinking that was a Torx, been awhile but I might remember it that way.
     
  14. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
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    Thanks for the replies!
    I figured it out. My little friend Dremil and cut off wheels made a 10mm into a 9mm. VICTORY! You right about the after market pins too. Part store pulled out replacement ones and they are 10 or 11mm.
     
  15. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
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    Care to explain how a 10mm was too small but grinding it even smaller to a 9mm allowed it to work perfectly?
     
  16. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 813

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  17. MickiRig1

    MickiRig1 PlowSite Veteran
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    It was a Brain Fart Attack! If I spent 5 minutes on the Internet I would of had the answer.
    Just the way the pins are constructed with the plastic cups protecting, and the raised collar above the pin made it hard to figure the size.
     
  18. theholycow

    theholycow PlowSite.com Addict
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    I don't know the Escape's brakes, but generally one should clean and re-grease the pins when doing a brake job...
     
  19. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Few tout proper brake jobs more than me, so yes absolutely they should be. But obviously right from the beginning this wasn't a proper brake job....
     
  20. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Now if I had been there......:D