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What should my employees make per hour?

Discussion in 'Business Fundamentals' started by lawnlandscape, Oct 18, 2010.

  1. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Ok, so my company is not even doing bids anymore for snow removal because I already am filled up for the year. Last year I had only one employee, but this year I will have 3 + myself.

    I will have 2 guys responsible for snow blowing and shoveling at condo Associations. Both of these guys will make $15 per hour. Then I have one guy that will be returning from last year that was just a snow blower/shoveler last year, but will be plowing this year. Last year he made $16. This year I am giving him a raise, so he will be making $17.50.

    What would other company's pay hourly for these types of workers?
  2. bigthom

    bigthom Senior Member
    Messages: 105

    assuming he is plowing in ur truck that sounds decent to me
  3. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    My contractor pays his guys 18 an hour to use his trucks.
  4. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,468

    Sounds right on the Shovelers/Blowers. The Plowing wage is low, $20.00/Hr at least.
  5. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    I pay anyone that is driving/operating any equipment, including trucks, at least $20 an hour. Your shoveling wage sounds dead on to me.
  6. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Considering this is his first year every plowing and also considering he just broke a window at a house with a stump grinder, I'm going to leave him at $17.50 this year. Its already a $1.50 increase over last year anyway.

    thanks for your imput guys. Much appreciated.
  7. Elite Property Services

    Elite Property Services Senior Member
    Messages: 230

    I pay $25 but usually all my drivers are extremely qualified and do a good job. There also is light shoveling.
  8. blk90s13

    blk90s13 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,157

    $20/hr for operators and $15/hr for shovelers

    How did he manage to break a window with a stump grinder ?
  9. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    I have no idea actually. I went to grab something and was gone for 10 min, came back and he showed me it. It was a basement window so it was right at the level he was grinding, but he said the grinder seemed to get caught on something and pulled him into the house.

    I just really have no idea. I have never had a stump grinder pull me and have used them hundreds of times... lol
  10. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Stuff happens! Its the cost of doing business I guess. Around here (the snow plowing dumpster for pricing) wages can go for 12-15 for sidewalks and 10-high teen's for plowing in a company vehicle.
  11. blk90s13

    blk90s13 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,157

    Oh the machine went through the window ? lol :eek: he must be a little guy

    I was thinking something flew out the grinds and you being unreal for counting against him hell he would never touch a power tool if he is on my crew for a while :realmad:
  12. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    ya the machine hit the window... lol And no.. hes actually a pretty big guy.. I just dont understand what happened exactly, but I could see the 2' grove where he made his path straight into the window.
  13. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    Simple. Pay your people what you can afford to pay them so you can still run a profitable business, and understand some simple rules. If you take care of your employees, you won't have any trouble counting on them to show up at 1am or on Christmas morning. Pay them average or lower wages then expect some occasional or frequent problems. I have learned over the years it's more valuable to find the "right employee" rather then "a employee" hands down. My guys would do anything for me, but in return I will try to do the same. You get what you pay for!
  14. swtiih

    swtiih PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,179

    good hard reliable and careful workers that are making you money are worth keeping happy
  15. bigthom

    bigthom Senior Member
    Messages: 105

    i agree. in my area new guys are 10 to 15 an hour in our trucks. if they use their own truck its obviously more. it all depends on experience and how they perform.
  16. speralandscape

    speralandscape Member
    Messages: 85

    I think that is a fair price for his first year plowing as it will take him some time to become efficient, at which time you could give him a raise if you feel he deserves it.
  17. msu1510

    msu1510 Senior Member
    from MI
    Messages: 128

    1st year in a truck, start him as low as you can until he proves he is worth more, then give him what he is worth to you. i cannot tell you how many guys tell me they are "experienced" then they back the truck into something and cost me $ and they are pissed they are not making enough.
  18. the new boss 92

    the new boss 92 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,989

    in chicago i have made 25 an hour when i was drinving my boses truck when mine hit the shitter!
  19. DaytonBioLawns

    DaytonBioLawns Banned
    from 45458
    Messages: 347

    I'm in Dayton, Ohio and my starting rates are $8/hr per unskilled laborer and $14/hr per driver. That is just starting....and to be honest I pay myself $14 until I know I am in the clear, and then I bump my own to $22/hr when I know I'm getting my money. I take care of my guys very quickly too.

    Look at it this way...
    Who is looking for these jobs? Why are they looking? and can they survive at that rate? That is how I set my minimums. I start at $14 and then usually if I want to keep 'em I bring 'em in house and if it works the next season I bump them up mid 2nd season to $16 and then I see how it goes. The more valuable they are, the more I pay them. I have a guy that will earn twice my own normal wage because he does so much for me....but then again I get the owner's share and a bunch of cool toys......

    A reliable $14 an hour is life changing for guys in my area. I want to change lives....not give them false hopes and then fail. Take care of the good ones as long as you can make money with them. If not let them choose where to go and give them a positive reference.
  20. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    $14 per hour 'life changing'? for snow removal? Last year was a somewhat light year an my guys only got about 120 hours all season.

    120 X 14 = $1,680

    November 1st - April 15th = 23 weeks

    $1,680 / 23 weeks = $73.00 per week. How can anyone possibly live on that? (And thats gross wages!! They still got taxes coming out of that)