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What is better tracks or tires on skid steer

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment' started by Mabserv, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Mabserv

    Mabserv Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    Hello
    I currently have a skid steer with tires but am thinking of upgrading to a track machine. Does any one know if track are better, worst or just as good for snow plowing?

    Thank you
     
  2. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,181

    Stick with tires, you will be much happier.
    Robert
     
  3. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,953

    This has been discussed at length in previous posts. My experience has been machines with "ASV" tracks are a lot better in the snow than others. We use have a Cat277 that has never been close to stuck, and performs well in the snow. We had, and sold, a New Holland with tracks, that wasn't real good in the snow.
     
  4. purpleranger519

    purpleranger519 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 536

    Our NH with Polar Tracks works as well as our skid steers with tires if not better.
     
  5. BowTieDmax

    BowTieDmax Senior Member
    Messages: 152

    ASV / Cat tracks work great. We use a 8611 plow on a 287c thats perfect.
     
  6. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    I have a Bobcat T300 with stock tracks and it plows about as good as my 3 year old daughter with a shovel.

    Absolutely sucks. Can't even plow 2" snow with just the bucket.
     
  7. BlizzardBeater

    BlizzardBeater Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 420

    Those ASV tracks are excellent for snow. I find tires to be more versatile.
     
  8. Mabserv

    Mabserv Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    Thank you to all for the feed back!
     
  9. ryde307

    ryde307 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,143

    Alot depends on your summer use. Is it your only machine if summer use is landscape and such I would go with tracks. Like stated before Block style tracks Bobcat case and so on suck in the snow. Cat asv and some after market are far better and you shouldnt have to many issues.

    If its just for snow go with tires. Cheaper up front cheaper to maintain cheaper to replace. However a track machine can do some things a tire cant such as pushingback snow and so on.
     
  10. EquipmentChic

    EquipmentChic Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Part of that is because its a Bobcat...not a big fan.

    I say tracks are your better option. Here's why:
    Tracks are going to give you more surface-to-ground contact than tires (of course). It will also make a difference in the depth of snow you are working in. If it is fresh snow, tires would do...however the older the snow, or the more compacted, the surface-to-ground contact is going to make a difference. Common sense to some degree - tires give you ground contact maybe 3' wide X 1' long (in 4 localized areas) whereas tracks give you complete ground coverage 2-3' wide X 6-8' long.
    And as someone mentioned earlier, tracks allow for some things that tires don't. My 2 cents Thumbs Up
     
  11. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    I disagree with your reasoning. Surface area to ground contact equals less PSI on th ground. My track machine weighs over 10,000 lbs. I can drive the track over my foot and not hurt my foot. Plowing traction is all about lots of PSI ground pressure. So, the thinner the tire (or Track) the better the traction in snow.

     
  12. EquipmentChic

    EquipmentChic Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    I agree with the PSI ground pressure...I may have explained what I meant it incorrectly. I will be the first to admit I am still the newbie in all of this stuff :blush2:
    Got the info from my boss as we had recently had this discussion about tires vs tracks since I sell these parts/machines often. I may have messed up what I was told when posting it. :confused:
     
  13. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    No problem. My T300 os awesome in the mud and dirt. I floats over everything. But during snow, its bad. I pretty much just use it to load salt and push back piles if needed. It just sits on shop all winter because its so bad
     
  14. BlizzardBeater

    BlizzardBeater Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 420

    If you really want some winter traction, get a set of tires and bring them to your local commercial tire shop. Have them drill and stud them with the commercial studs, like the ones used for wheel loaders.
     
  15. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,496

    Just for your info, Snow Wolf says on their website that Wolf Paw Tracks are coming soon. I would bet they will be worth the money. I have the Wolf Paw tires and they make all the difference in the world. JMO.
     
  16. SullivanSeptic

    SullivanSeptic PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,422

    Thanks for the heads up. I will check them out
     
  17. snocrete

    snocrete Banned
    Messages: 2,862

    I think Snow Wolf tracks are currently available.?.?..but Goodyear has been making Polar Tracks for a few yrs now. As you know Greg I have ran dedicated snow tires(wolf paws) AND tracks(polar tracks) on Bobcat equipment, and it does make a HUGE difference.
     
  18. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,496

    Hey Mike, I just saw on their website a few days ago that it said "coming soon". I looked again just now and same thing. Maybe you know something I don't? I know you said your Polar Tracks worked very well so that's of course another option for the people using tracked machines. If you have a link showing the Wolf Tracks somewhere let me know, I'd like to see them.
     
  19. snocrete

    snocrete Banned
    Messages: 2,862

    No link, just word of mouth from a local dealer....could be wrong.?..? I would actually like to see them myself.

    I do have a sub purchasing a set of the 400 series Wolf Paws for his machine. I will be asking him to inquire about the tracks when he goes in to pick them up.
     
  20. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,496

    Sounds good, let us know.