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Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by KTLawnCo, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    I placed a bid for this at

    0”-2” $300
    2.01”-4” $425
    4.01”-6” $575
    6.01”-8” $650
    8.01”-10” $750
    10.01”-12” $975
    12+ Up for discussion


    Like most I bid high becuase this guy likes/loves to negociate. But now he is not even interested:realmad:...Was I that high?? The snow can only be piled in a few tricky places due to newly planted trees which dont allow for stacking. What you would guys have bid...I am in VA. I also dont work for peanuts...i would rather sit an watch some low baller take all day when his plow breaks.

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    Last edited: Dec 13, 2011
  2. bristolturf

    bristolturf Senior Member
    Messages: 435

    what are you using to plow it? You truck or your skid?

    I would say your a little high, not too much though so i wouldnt be too concerend. If he tries to start negotiating, i would maybe tell him that instead of dropping your prices switch it to $300 for up to 3.99" 425 4-7.99 and 550 8-11.99 anything over 12" is hourly. Personally I dont really like breaking it down into 2" groups, most of the time you will be pretty close to the same time in a 1-4" storm maybe 15mins +/-.

    Your still making a fair wage, from the looks of the picture with a skid and a pusher or plow youd probably be in and out of those lots in 1 hr or so probably about 1.5 if your using a bucket instead and thats for up to about 4" up to about 8" your probably around 2 hours or so.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2011
  3. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    Thanks for the relpy. Hopefully he will email back but if not o well. I was going to throw a truck on it if only 2 in but if I have to stack I will put a skid on it because there is so little space to put the snow. they have small tree lining the property and it would crush them.
     
  4. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,245

    seems high for my area. looks like an easy push,but like you said it is not straight forward. maybe throw him the lowest number you were going to take after negotiating and see if he bites.
     
  5. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    I see about 1/2 hr of plowing with 2 ins of snow.My area around 5k for the season,salt and stacking extra.
     
  6. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    He said their last guy did it for $107 up to 4 in. I told him there is no way I can match that. I am thinking 100 per hour with a min of 2 hour. On a 1in trigger (to make some $$). What would you charge per hour?
     
  7. bristolturf

    bristolturf Senior Member
    Messages: 435

    I think the price he had doing it was fair, if just using a truck. You will be in and out of there in 30-45 minutes easily up to 4". See if he'd do 110 up to 4" and then you just use your truck and then if stacking and pushing is required you charge hourly for your loader as needed. Tell him you will push the snow to the back or one side and up and over the curb as best as you can, but as needed you will have to use your loader to make more room. Simple as that. You can dedicate your loader to a bigger site.

    Judging by the looks of it, thats a condo association or something? What about the drives?
     
  8. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    It is a townhouse association. The drives I don't touch they are the home owners responsibility. Plus they are pavers so I don't want to rip them up.
     
  9. bristolturf

    bristolturf Senior Member
    Messages: 435

    like i said Id personally tell him Iwill do it for $110 up to 4inches. Anytime we need to stack the snow or push it back we will do so and it will be billed hourly at this. Its just like a regular site mroe or less. Unless hes demanding you put a machine there or hes demanding that the snow be off the parking lot aftrer each plow that is a fair rate, plus you will end up possibly making more because you can put a minimum on your loader for stacking such as 2 hour minimum or 3 hour minimum or something and make some extra cash.
     
  10. ommegang

    ommegang Senior Member
    from wi
    Messages: 100

    That looks like 1 hr at least to me all day long. With condos and apts, in my experience, you also have to account for people seeing you plow, moving thier car, after they brush the snow off of course, time,time,time, and plowing thier spot out. I would bid it at 1 hr at $90/hr w/o salt. 3x the cost of salt if bidding salt. I would say $200 per 2" and go from there. $300 may be high IMO.
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2011
  11. bristolturf

    bristolturf Senior Member
    Messages: 435

    all the cars are parked in doors or on the drives and theres not even 20 parking stalls that are probably not all filled either. I would never sit and wait at a site for the tenent to brush their car and move it and plow their space for them. We always figure into our HOA prices a second trip during a time when majority of the tenents are gone to do any cleanup we need to do for the stalls and thats it. 3.99" your looking at 30-45 minutes tops, and if you do a cleanup no more than 5 minutes to clean out any stalls that are still snow covered.
     
  12. Guzzo856

    Guzzo856 Member
    Messages: 58

    0-2 -$290
    2-4-$380
    4-6-$490
    8-10-$600
    10-12-$780

    That seems right to get the job and still make money
     
  13. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    I went to 100/hr with a 2hr min and he didn't take it so I assume he got someone for cheaper. thanks for all the input!!
     
  14. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    This is another quick bid I am working on. It is a high end client of mine. Tell me if this is too high but I was thinking 125 up to 6''.

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    Last edited: Dec 19, 2011
  15. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    I need to move, you wouldn't get that kind of money you're asking here. The $107 sounds about right, you'd get $40-50 for the driveway
     
  16. hosejockey4506

    hosejockey4506 Senior Member
    Messages: 231

    i agree your pricing seems to high
     
  17. Andy96XLT

    Andy96XLT Senior Member
    Messages: 323

    Sounds right on with what i would charge here for that driveway
     
  18. rebert

    rebert Senior Member
    Messages: 103

    I would use a per push price on something smaller like that..
     
  19. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    How much would you do it, per push?
     
  20. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    what's it cost you to do it?

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