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Western Wings (bad design)

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by big schmitty, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. big schmitty

    big schmitty Member
    Messages: 88

    I have the pro plow wings on my plow and have damaged both of them over the last 3 years of having them. I have purchased 2 pair of these since i have had it including the original set. The last one I bought was less than a month ago and I was doing a favor for my brother, plowing a customer of his and did not know the lot. I was being careful but I caught the corner of a parking bumper and bent the :realmad: out of my new wing. I absolutely refused to buy another one, so I fixed them both the way they should have been built from the factory. IMHO!

    Here are the pics of the damaged wing and how I gusseted it, so it can not bend so easily. the third pic is of a collar I put on the guide pins, because when the wing catches on something, it pulls the guide pin out away from the plow, therefore collapsing the two gusseted supports in the rear. The collar will not allow the guide pin to pull out out of position and can't collapse the supports. I have about 6 hrs in redoing both wings. I plan to sand blast them and powdercoat them after this season. I hope this helps someone out and saves you some money.

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    repaired wing.jpg

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  2. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    from Ontario
    Messages: 3,589

    Way to go! That's a lot stronger for sure.
     
  3. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Looks like simple, logical engineering, well done! Just keep in mind that every piece of steel you add to the plow adds load to your lift. And consider too... since your wings are so strong now what is going to give when you hit something next time? Perhaps the wings are designed to bend kinda like new cars are designed to crush. I would expect something much more expensive to bend or break next time. Drive carefully my friend....
     
  4. trqjnky

    trqjnky Senior Member
    Messages: 620

    maybe getting some low grade shear pins/bolts to hold the wing on? a lot easier to slap a new pin/bolt on in the parking lot than rewelding a setup.

    i say this because i have the buyers wings (love em) and clipped a curb, the lower mount that bolts to the mold board came off because the bolts snapped. no damage to anything else. new bolts and i was on my way.
     
  5. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    just drill the pins where you put your collar on and put a pin through it....

    or as i had to do in Chicago.....drill through the wing and the plow and put and American LOCK on them because where i park.....wings will walk right off the god damn plows....
     
  6. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    I agree with the shear bolts, that's a good idea. Some grade three or softer would be good. Too bad about the ones that grew legs and walked away...
     
  7. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Nice reinforcing there except next time you clip something with them it will just tear the pin bracket off the power bar, they always do.

    Bent Western wings are certainly nothing new, they're inherently designed to give right where yours did, as they all do. When an obstacle is struck with an add on wing something has to give.
     
  8. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    had ours for 30 days and they both did the same thing i have a welder coming to fix them ill show him these pics
     
  9. big schmitty

    big schmitty Member
    Messages: 88

    Everyone had concerns about tearing up something else, like the power bar or ripping the pin mounts off. Well it's been 3 wks and 3 storms later with 3 in of ice and 6 in of snow and not one problem. I hit a few curbs and some parking bumpers and instead of it ripping the wing out of position, the plow jumped the curb with no damage. The wings actually seem to work better being stiffer instead of being loosely pinned on the plow.
     
  10. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    sounds good ill take pics of ours when there done im gonna paint them on monday
     
  11. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    i have primed them since them but i got rustoleom saftey red for them
    and the welder changed the bottom around so that the wings hit curbs the same time the cutting edge does.
    sorry about the sloppy pic
    we put cotter pins in the top and bottom mini rails

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  12. JRS Landscaping

    JRS Landscaping Senior Member
    Messages: 103

    I would get ride of the collar with the setscrew..... Just drill it and put a nice big pin in it with a washer so you can remove them quick if you need to.
     
  13. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    A better pic or two of how you changed the bottom so the cutting edge hits a curb at the same time the wing does? Thanks.
     
  14. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    Will do just paint ed them red today
     
  15. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    Thanks looking forward to seeing them.
     
  16. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    sorry it took so long

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  17. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    Thanks. Have you put them to the test yet?
     
  18. pvtben121

    pvtben121 Senior Member
    Messages: 226

    There is no snow in columbus right now
     
  19. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    Let me know after you try them out.