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Western? Fisher? M eyer?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Trimline, Jan 26, 2001.

  1. Trimline

    Trimline Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    I was wondering if any of you could tell me the plow best suited for the following situation. The plow will be going on a 99 f350. The way it looks right now the route will consist of 60-75 driveways and possibly a couple small lots.
    The only dealers I no of around here are Western, Fisher and Meyer. I have been leaning towards fisher but have heard they are kind of slow.

    So what do you guys think?

    I have an older e47 now.
    All I can think about is something faster.
  2. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,222

    Well if you go diamond you can get the bigger motor a 60H will be faster and diamond is a heavy plow. What about a frink plow they are in NY have a plolymer blade.
  3. mdb landscaping

    mdb landscaping Senior Member
    Messages: 823

    we have a fischer on a 2000 chevy 1500 z71 and i think its great. i dont really think its slow and so far there have not been any problems

    [Edited by mdb landscaping on 01-26-2001 at 04:09 PM]
  4. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,154

    Id go with the Fisher or Western,the better dealer(one open during storms) would get my money.Why an F350 as a drivway truck?As long as its a reg cab pickup,but 60-75 driveways,and a few small lots.I think your going to need some understanding customers,since itll be a while after the storm until you can service them all.Good luck and get at least an 8.5 ft plow,or a 9 with for that 1 ton,the big blade will save time and the 350 can push it,so might as well get the bigger blade.
  5. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    First choice 8.5' Fisher v-plow.

    Second Choice 9' Fisher straight blade.

  6. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    I would go with a Western MVP or Fisher EZ-V ( only real diff between the 2 are the mounts). Check my signature for what an 81/2 Western would look like on that truck.

    And I agree with John. Even if your driveways were right next to each other, there is no way a single truck could service that many accounts well.

    If you were REAL fast you might be able to do 6 an hour. Thats 11-12 hours for 1 push barring any problems. In a 4" plus storm you will probablly have to push each one 2 if not 3 times. Thats 36 hours straight!!! Better you than me pal :D

  7. Trimline

    Trimline Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Dock boy, I don't know what kind of driveways you plow but I could do 6 an hour with a snow shovel. I live in Rochester N.Y. the averge driveway size here is 18x30 or some where in that area. I have 31 seasonal contracts with a 3 inch trigger. All my driveways are in the same town but not all that close together. Right now my route takes my about 2 1/2 hours with 4 inches or less in driveway. Only get 175 a driveway have to do a bunch to make any money.
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,433

    What size are the driveways out east? In Michigan most drives wouldn't take more than 5 minutes at the most. The only one I do is my own, but it is pretty average for around here.
  9. 66Construction

    66Construction Senior Member
    Messages: 315

    I would go with a fisher, I've had no problems with mine...it is a little slow angling side to side but the owners manual says about 6 seconds side to side is normal. If I were going to plow lots with that truck I would put an EZ-v on it if I had the extra cash at the time, but if not a 9' fisher HD plow would be my next choice depending on what size driveways you plan on plowing it may be to wide. I'd go for the parking lots there's more money to be made from my stand point.
  10. CCLC

    CCLC Member
    Messages: 91

    With that many driveways I would have a Snowman rear plow and nothing bigger than an 8' front plow. I hope that if you just have one truck servicing all of those drives that they are really close together. As long as there is a shovel boy in the truck with our guys we can do about 8 drives an hour. With drives next door to each other and a rear plow I would expect to be able to do 12-14 an hour.
  11. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    Trimline and Mark,

    I live in the sticks!!! The avg. drive around here, and the ones I was refering to, are about 100' long with various configs. at the end. There are alot of "Development" drives (18x30), but I hit them after my contracts as "cash pickups". It's hard to get these Development people to committ to contracts. Their drives are so small, they figure "my kids or I will shovel it". So I drive through, and while they are all out there huffing and puffing, I pick up a few for some quick cash:)

  12. MJ

    MJ Senior Member
    Messages: 129

    My driveway is 11' x 1/4 mile. About 1/4 of that is fairly steep grade. I don't think 8 minutes would do it.

  13. slplow

    slplow PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 594

    I would go with a fisher v blade or their new 8.5 strait blade . Yes their is slower but they don't suck up the amps like the western or meyer pumps do. A would get a pull plow too.
  14. Trimline

    Trimline Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    I was wondering if anyone has numbers from the ground up and side to side on Fisher, Meyer and Western? Can anyone tell me the pros and cons to trip edge vs trip blade? Am I to concerned with speed is there a big difference in productivity?

    Thanks for all the help so far.
  15. DanG

    DanG Senior Member
    Messages: 240

    The specs on my Western uni-mount says it'll go from the ground to raised in 2 seconds and from the fully angled one way to the other in 4. And that seems pretty accurate.

    Right now I'm doing 35 driveways/walks. They vary in size from real small(20x40) to over 1/4 mile in length, and one church with small parking lot.

    In the city it helps because I have 15 within 10 miles of each other.
    If all I did were ones in the city I could easily do 40-50 in a 6-8 hour day.
    With the back blade it helps cut down on the time but most times I don't use that truck since it's to big to use in the city.

    Out in the country the ones I do are spread out, some are over a couple of miles from each other.

    I try to get a bunch of them near each other so it makes it worth the drive to do them when they're that spread out.

    You'd be lucky to get twenty done in the country in that same amount of time(6-8 hrs).

  16. slplow

    slplow PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 594

    On a full-trip blade if you hit something at full angle you whole truck move sideway's and you can hit a building like I did. A trip edge blade will not push you truck sideway's.

    FIREMAN Member
    Messages: 50

    Go with the western, v or not it's the best bet in my book, one word of caution, if you are planning on doing those development drives don't buy a poly- blade plow. IMHO poly blades are not great for backdragging as weight seems to play an important role. Actually I'm not certain it's the weight but my poly western doesn't pull snow as well as my steel blade conventional....

    UNCLE BOB Member
    Messages: 76


    I do some driveways here in Md. that take 1/2hr+ they are over 100ft. some 200,lots of curves,turn arounds and parking pads. A real pain but they pay $50.00+.Who am I to argue.I Use a 7.5
  19. Michael F

    Michael F Senior Member
    Messages: 203

    TW truck also sells Diamond, and I belive Frink, as well as meyer. A place out in Victor, Canidagua area has Boss. Lesco has Curtis. I run Fisher, Thruway spring is great, if you need more info let me know.
  20. Plowboy

    Plowboy Member
    Messages: 34

    I swear by v plows, but for what you are doing, I would get a 9 ft western, and then for $350 more a set of wings to put on when doing your commersials. THe reason for this is the 9ft pro plow will let you back drag well, and I think westerns do scrape a little better than most, but I think that depends more on the truck than the plow. The wings will let you make time on commercials by eliminating trail off when finishing up.

    I agree though with the other post that said go with the dealer who will best service you with parts.