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Welding a steel Pipe (bar) to the edge for gravel

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by whitelite, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. whitelite

    whitelite Member
    Messages: 82

    I plow mostly all gravel driveways and it never seems to freeze hard here where I am, so I'm wanting to weld a steel bar to to the cutting edge. Has anyone got experience doing this.
    Need to know if I should weld it to the BOTTOM or to the FRONT of the edge (may be better for back dragging?)
    Anyway, thanks for the advise in advance!:)
    Regards,
    Lowell
     
  2. x.system

    x.system Senior Member
    Messages: 368

    I wouldn't weld directly to the cutting edge, to much heat and it will crack. I've build a couple of these, just mount it so it can come back off later. Pics in this thread of one I just got done with.

    http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=103504
     
  3. whitelite

    whitelite Member
    Messages: 82

    Thanks, that looks great.:)
     
  4. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    Why don't you switch to a poly edge? Much better on gravel then steel.
     
  5. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    Or just lift the plow up like an inch and go. Instead of welding
     
  6. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,987


    AJ..Has a Good point for once:nod:.....I have plowed a few gravel drives in my day..Drop the plow..Then lift it off the ground an inch or so.... Go slow..and pay attention....When the ground totally freezes it gets a little easyer.......Gravel drives are a pain anyway you cut it...
     
  7. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,191

    It's not as easy as raising the plow 1". Every time the truck goes up, so does the plow and you leave 4" of snow. I have used this method but it is a real PITA.
     
  8. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,987

    Agreed...Hence the words Pay attention...They are a PITA
     
  9. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    Lifting the plow doesn't work. It leaves the drive looking awful and full of slop. If you reread the post, Whitelite states that he does mostly gravel and it never seems to freeze, hence the one inch lift would never work well. Rather than welding a bar on the plow, a poly edge will work wonders. We had a few gravel drives and parking areas that never wanted to hard freeze also. Once we switched to poly edges it was like night and day. Take it from a guy who has been there!
     
  10. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    Also, we have found that backscraping works best, but it can be very irritating to get rid of the snow humps from the edges of the plow.
     
  11. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,191

    Do these poly edges scrape to the ground on black top. What stops them from digging in on gravel? Are they thicker? I don't do any gravel or need one just curious.

    I found back dragging worked well on gravel but if the snow is thick you have to make sure you don't get hung up.
     
  12. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    We started poly with our pusher boxes because we hate rubber. We liked it so much that we have switched most of our equipment over to it. It scrapes like steel and because it is so wide (1.5 inches) it will float over the gravel pretty good. Plowing slop is always a pain, but the poly makes it easier and is much more forgiving on the equipment and operator. Be careful if you buy poly. Most companies are selling urathane. That wears way to fast. The stuff that we use is from http://cuttingedgepoly.com. It last forever. I'm not big on recommending other companies, but they have treated us right over the years.
     
  13. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,191

    I have a steel edge on a 10' pusher. It actually scrapes like crap. I think the cutting edge is too far forward from the side ski. Do you know if a poly edge would scrape better.
     
  14. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    Poly edges are the only way to go on pushers. We have been swithing our plows over too. Don't buy urathane though. It wears too fast. We had much better luck with ethaline edges
     
  15. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,191

    Do you have an approx. price for a 10' edge. Their web site looks under construction.
     
  16. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    I usually email or call them. I have been using them for years. I don't recall what a 10 footer goes for. Our ten footer has two 5 foot sections. Had it on for a couple of years and have only worn a little. They are usually pretty quick to get you a quote. We give them our credit card and the edge is usually in hand in a week or two.
     
  17. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    I just looked at their site. Looks like the store is down. They have a contact form. I use that sometimes.
     
  18. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,191

    OK, thanks for the info.
     
  19. mrsnowman

    mrsnowman Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    no problem
     
  20. whitelite

    whitelite Member
    Messages: 82

    Thanks everyone for the tips. I've been raising the plow about an inch for years, but as stated it is a Pain and really doesn't do a good job. Like was said here every time the truck goes up, so does the plow and it leaves way to much snow. Problem is most gravel drives "are" up and down. The flip side is that once you go down the plow gouges and trips when the gravel isn't frozen, then you just cause more ups and downs the customers are not happy with rutting their roads like that.:mad:

    Back dragging is also a pain especially on lots of curves and winding roads, (neck gets real sore) depending on the snow you can leave big piles in waves when the snow is full of moisture cause it's heavy and the plow just rides up and over.

    Plowing and always having to go very slow ---"ticking" the blade up and trying to keep it 1 inch is a time killer, so is back dragging over and over again.

    This is the reason I'm looking for a better solution, thanks for the ideas and comments!!:)Lowell