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Weght of 55 gal drum of Magic-0?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Mick, Sep 16, 2002.

  1. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Can anyone tell me what a 55 gallon drum of Magic-0 weighs?
     
  2. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    About 600 lbs
     
  3. SnoJob67

    SnoJob67 Senior Member
    Messages: 384

    Educated guess-

    Water weighs just over 8 lbs per gallon. Let' assume that magic is a little heavier, so we will guess 9 lbs per gallon plus 40 lbs for the barrel. That would be about 535 lbs per barrel. That will get you close enough, I would guess.

    Alan beat me to it!
     
  4. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Thanks to both. Trying to figure out how much I can haul back to Maine from Poughkeepsie on DRW 3500.
     
  5. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    As much as you can get away with!!!;)
     
  6. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    Alan is very close. Magic weighs about 10.5 lbs per gallon. A 55 gallon drum will weigh 577.5 lbs plus the weight of the drum. I believe John has plenty of 55 gallon poly drums.

    John
     
  7. SnoJob67

    SnoJob67 Senior Member
    Messages: 384

    I feel like I am guessing "how many jelly beans in the jar." :)

    I would not hesitate to haul 2 tons on that truck. I know an ex cop who has a bullet business and he hauls 5,000 lbs of lead in his F350 Diesel with DRW.

    I have hauled 2 tons with my F250 HD and argued with the material supplier that I "could not possibly" have 2 tons on my 3/4 ton truck. The scale showed me that, in fact, I DID have 2 tons on. You must drive more carefully than when you have a legal load, but it is possible to do without damage to your vehicle and without putting others in harms way.
     
  8. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    I'm sure most or all of us have been over GVW at on time or another. Some of the townships around here have mobile scales and weigh trucks frequently. Stiff fines ($1 per pound), so its really not worth it. One of our F350's with a 9' Western and an inverted V weights in at 10,000 lbs empty so legally it can only carry 1000 lbs of salt. Loaded its more like 15,000. About 5 years ago we switched to storing all salt on site.
     
  9. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Thanks. I'm registered for 12,000 lbs. Truck alone weighs 6640. The town clerk told me the State allows a 10% leeway. But I have to go through three other states. I have no doubt the truck could safely handle more, but I don't really want to find out the fine for overweight first hand. :( Might be worth raising to 15,000. The other issue is convincing them I'm on personal business in a 1 ton with commercial plates and a load of 55 gal drums full of "something".

    Thanks, again to everyone. I was just trying to figure how much bagged I could carry and it was only working out to two pallets:mad: . So I switched to figuring drums. There's a source of salt about 40 miles from here. Now I need a front end loader.:cool: . Now trying to convince the wife I might as well get that JD 110 TLB:drinkup: .
     
  10. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    Looks like you should be able to get 8 drum on your truck with a few hundred pounds to spare. Make sure you carry the MSDS for the Magic just in case your stopped and they want to know what's in the drums? I would also make sure you have the drums tied in. You will be able to treat 55 tons of salt using 440 gallons (8 gallons per ton). Now the big questions is when are you getting your loader?


    John
     
  11. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    Mick,

    Because you are over 10,000 you are techanically haulling commercial. You may need to look into getting out of state load permits. I am not sure. However you can probably run right through in a 1 ton with out them.

    Geoff
     
  12. landman

    landman Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 185

    well law says registered vehicles with commercial plates traveling over state lines must have a valid US DOT #. found this out when I hopped from Jersey to Staten Island.
     
  13. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    NY State Troopers no longer use portable scales in the cars, they have a set they tow on a trailer and set up as a semi permanent weigh station, usually for the day. Otherwise, they use the permanent weigh stations, usually on interstate highways.

    The chances of these stations being open on a Saturday are pretty slim, although it does happen. If you wait till evening, or Sunday to travel, chances are slimmer yet.

    A CB in the cab will tell you when and where the "coops" are open.

    No where in my post do I suggest you break the law.... but I know what I'd do in your shoes;)

    Maybe the guys from the neighboring states can explain how their weight stations operate too!
     
  14. Taconic

    Taconic PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 180

    The Magic number you are looking for Mick on a 55 gallon drum of Magic is 644lbs each
    John P
    845-485-4200
    Taconic Maintenance Inc