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V-Plows?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Kraco_1, Feb 8, 2001.

  1. Kraco_1

    Kraco_1 Member
    Messages: 62

    Bought a Western V-plow on monday and just used it for the first time today, and it don't seem like it works the way it should. Should both sides open and close at the same time, I mean reach the end of it's travel at the same point? One side always seems to take longer. Another thing, pushing 12" of wet snow, at the end of the run when I pile it up, one side of the plow will give if at an angle. In other words one side of the blade moves from the impact. And I'm not hitting all that hard either. I never used a V-plow before, does this sound like it's out of wack to you guys? And should I take it back or is there an adjustment I can do? I'm gonna look over the book for it to but thought I would ask you guys about it also. Thanks......Kraco_1
     
  2. Plowboy

    Plowboy Member
    Messages: 34

    I have used boss and hiniker v plows. both always had one wing that would retract or extend faster than the other. I figured that this was due to the fact that all springs don't have the same amount of resistance, and the amount of friction in the pivots.

    When the plow retracts under a load it is merely saving you from a bent plow or A frame. the only time it is a problem is when you are pushing in the scoop or angle position and it retracts before you hit something solid, like a snow pile. All plows will creep back to the v position during extended use due to the oil working against the reliefs as you plow. By creep I mean one to two inches in several pushes. Relieving when pushing up a pile of snow is normal though

    I wouldn't worry unless it is really floppy, like it won't stay angled one way or another while plowing.

    sounds normal to me Reliefs can be tightend, but most dealers won't do it till you are out of waranty. (see also straightening truck and plow frames.g
     
  3. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    I always thought that you were supposed to only move one wing at a time... or maybe I read your post wrong... never mind.

    -Tim
     
  4. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    The western will move both wings forward at the same time, and retract them at the same time. The blade retracting from the scoop position is a safety feature, however it shouldnt move that easily. FWIW I dont go into piles in the scoop, I retract back to straight and then stack.
    There is an adjustment for that feature, I would go to the dealer and have them adjust it.
    Dino
     
  5. Kraco_1

    Kraco_1 Member
    Messages: 62

    Ok thanks guys, I guess I was worried for nothing and this is normal for these plows. I will say other then that it's a great plow and does a great job. My old Western plow wouldn't have made it trough some of the stuff I went trough with the V-plow. I'm still a little slow with the hand controller. But I think I'll like that to when I get used to it. Anyway, thanks again. Kraco_1
     
  6. Caneplow

    Caneplow Senior Member
    Messages: 172

    Great to hear that you do like it. I just ordered one myself.
     
  7. Deere John

    Deere John Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    Hey Dino - I'd like to read your thoughts on not going into the pile in the scoop position. We do it all the time, and end up with 7 FOOT PILES (sorry for the punniness). We ust hit the hoist and be careful to not launch ourselves up the bank 'till we're stuck, but other than that, I see no problem.

    Thx
     
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,866

    Kraco 1, the three Boss V's all do the same thing as yours, and give it a little time to get used to the controller. My first night was a pain, but after that I loved it. Now the only thing that will beat a V is a loader and ProTech.
     
  9. Kraco_1

    Kraco_1 Member
    Messages: 62

    Mark Oomkes, yeah I think so to. I guess it's like any thing else new, until you get used to it your not sure you like it. But I'm sure it's better then the dash mount once you do......Kraco_1
     
  10. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    Kraco 1,

    Don't worry. My Western does the same thing. The drivers side wing is just slightly slower than the passenger side. Mine does not move the when I hit a pile though. Then again, I would only see it if I was watching the plow edge markers, because I can barely see my plow.

    Greg
     
  11. Kraco_1

    Kraco_1 Member
    Messages: 62

    Dockboy, yeah thats what I'm finding out from everyone so i won't worry about. BTW, checked out the pic of your truck, very nice rig!...Kraco_1
     
  12. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    Thanks Kraco 1,

    Once you get used to the controller, I think you'll like it. I hold it in my right hand. It is very easy to shift the auto and hold the controller at the same time. My left hand never has to leave the wheel.

    Enjoy it :)

    Greg
     
  13. Winterworks

    Winterworks PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 97

    Dino (and Deere John) I too wonder why you would not stack in the scoop position. Other than getting stuck the odd time (two times and two tow bills yesterday for me!!) you can stack much much higher in the scoop. I have some piles that look like a loader made them.
    Pat
     
  14. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    HC is right.

    You think an 8.5' V-plow can stack high in the scoop setting. Wait till you see what a 9.5' V-Plow can stack.

    Geoff
     
  15. Plowboy

    Plowboy Member
    Messages: 34

    my 8.5 with a little black smoke added to it. :) will pile snow at least as high as the truck roof as long as you don't stop and then try to continue up the pile.
     
  16. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson Senior Member
    Messages: 637

    If you think the 9.5 stacks,you should see my Boss 10'stack.:eek:
    When that is not high enough,we get the loader out!:D
     
  17. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    And... if you think the 10 foot stacks high, YOU SHOULD SEE MY.........

    My gosh.... are we all the same here ???

    Too many of us get into Denver, they're gonna see what "mile high" really means....
     
  18. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    Hard to stack with that 10' boss when it falls off isnt it.
    For me its just a safety issue, no need to hammer the plow by putting all that stress stacking in the scoop. If the snow is powder I will stack that way, but with this last storm, when we got to the end of the run, we just left it there. My tranny didnt need to try and move that concrete.
    With the snow this time around, as you went into a pile you either stopped dead, or the plow would rise up so fast, it would slam the stops.
    Dino
     
  19. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson Senior Member
    Messages: 637

    John that was good:D

    If Dino had his V on a Ford Stroker there would be no worries about trannies.Concrete or fluffy snow the Ford can stack them both.

    And yes it is all fun and games till your plow falls off:(

    See what happens when we have to much time on our hands.I hope Denver is big enough for all our egos :D
     
  20. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    Mike you are right, if I had a ford auto tranny, I wouldnt have to worry about anything. I wouldnt worry about plowing, towing or even driving, as the truck would be at the shop getting a new every storm.
    Dino