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unimount wont lift or angle

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by wishingtoplow, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    Changed fluid in the fall. did not check filter. was about 5 degrees here this morning. Plow lifted slow once then would not lift or angle at all. pulled the pump out and the screen was froze up. drained fluid out the rams. refilled fluid and angled a couple times and lifted once and pump whining. checked fluid and it was low so i refilled and is still whining and wont lift or angle. checked solenoid and everything. could it stil be froze up. Its still about 5 degrees here. Snow for friday need it fixed
     
  2. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    also i can lift up on the ram like there is no restrictions holding it back. can also angle one way and a little the other but stops
     
  3. SnowMatt13

    SnowMatt13 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,532

  4. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    anyone else?
     
  5. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    filter froze again
     
  6. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    Maybe. Fill with fluid again? How many quarts did you use??
     
  7. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    Sorry I was stating that the filter was froze again
     
  8. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    Ok. So that means that you didn't get all the old fluid/water put
     
  9. wishingtoplow

    wishingtoplow Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 86

    Any tips on doing that I took off hoses and moved back and forth maybe not enough
     
  10. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    Yea take lines off at the motor,,,angle plow by hand also take line for lift off remove chain and raise and lower ram. Assuming you took off the resivor and cleaned all that out. Make sure your breather is good and screwed on tight. Add fluid add 2 capfulls of heet then operate plow as normal
    Have you taken the motor off ??
     
  11. twinman326

    twinman326 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,683

    You drain the whole system..You might have air in the system..After you refill the system, you should of manually swung the blade left to right to help push the air out of the rams and the rest of the system. As for fluid, I would use the "blue" hydraulic fluid instead of transmission fluid (red). Blue seem to handle better in cold weather.
     
  12. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    How are you going to manually angle the rams while they are filled with fluid?
     
  13. quick decision

    quick decision Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    frozen plow

    I had the same problem Sunday morning, I put a tarp over the plow motor and dumped hot air directly at the pump. 20 min. later it worked fine,.Got me through the next storm.
     
  14. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    I always was told the same "Blue seems to handle better in the cold" but I switched to blue this season for the first time & just last week I started having problems with the unit freezing up on me just like our friend was experiencing above. Now I'm thinking I may switch back to using red atf.
     
  15. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    Stick with blue or red. Switching back and forth isn't the best
     
  16. snowplowparts

    snowplowparts Inactive
    Messages: 67

    Curious what brand of blue???
     
  17. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    I used the Western brand, given that is was available in a gallon @ the dealer when I baught the filter back in November. Again, I had historicly used exclusively red atf. This is the first time I've ever dropped the res & cleaned the unit out completely. I even bled the angle rams @ that time. I figured sinse I'd cleaned it out completely I would give the blue stuff a try. I guess my girl preferrs red! Lol
     
  18. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    U need to disconnect the 2 angle lines @ the pump and set them in an oil drain pan. Now with the plow in the air, manually angle the plow back & forth over & over to bleed the angle rams.
     
  19. twinman326

    twinman326 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,683

    This should help you out. Very simple

    winter.jpg
     
  20. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    That still don't answer how your Gunna fill the angles cylinders by putting them in fluid, angle, then put them back on the fittings without getting air back in the lines.?? To much work that's not needed
    Just fill the resivor, angle the blade normally. Lower ram..ck and add more aa necessary