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Ultramount 2?

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by Willman940, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Willman940

    Willman940 Senior Member
    Messages: 325

    Watching some plowing videos, I noticed that Western is now selling the Ultra Mount 2 and a hand full of other features. Where I work now we Use boss plows so I don't have anything to go look at.
    What are the differences?
    Do the older plows also have the "sway bar" that lets the plow follow the ground better?
    What is fleet flex and soft stop?

    Hope everyone is doing well.
     
  2. 2006Sierra1500

    2006Sierra1500 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,758

    No such thing as an Ultramount 2....All Ultramounts have that pivot bar, Fleet Flex is like a Boss system. It lets one truck run any Western plow. Soft stop doesn't close the angle valve as soon as you let off the button on the controller so it doesn't jerk to a stop and bounce your truck around, it glides to a stop. Kinda hard to get the angle you want with it so it has its pros and cons.
     
  3. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    UM2 does exist.... it has a red bar on top.....LOL


    An enhanced version of the popular UltraMount® mounting system

    Fast and easy – no tools required!

    Extra wide receiver brackets for easy drive-in alignment

    New one-piece lift frame design for added strength and durability

    Simple mechanical connecting hook

    Rotating pivot bar keeps attaching points level

    Blade pivots while plowing for a cleaner scrape

    Chain lift system for higher stacking and safe emergency transport

    Removable receiver brackets for off-season ground clearance
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2013
  4. 2006Sierra1500

    2006Sierra1500 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,758

    I stand corrected. Only thing I see different is that little bit of paint and the one piece lift frame.
     
  5. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    The new frame should be a huge improvement over the 4 bolt design.
     
  6. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    Pivot bar is redone with pins removable from the back side making the process of reconfiguring the plow(adjusting plow for different height front ends of trucks) real easy! If you have ever done the process you know what a pain it is!
     
  7. John Murphy

    John Murphy Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    Not true. It is not like the Boss system. With Boss, you also need to change the control. With Fleet Flex, one control will operate any plow, straight, vee, or extendable. Any plow, any truck, one control.
     
  8. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    I thought so bit I wasn't sure. I was wondering why the new prodigy had the WO, MVP controller. Will the older ones work still work?
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2013
  9. WilliamOak

    WilliamOak PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,987

    With Boss you can run anything off a v controller. Still no idea why they don't push that aspect like western does.
     
  10. 04hd

    04hd Senior Member
    from WI
    Messages: 170

    I'm wondering if my plow I just ordered will have the new updated stuff on it???... I'm hoping it's a good plow. Ordered an 8.5 mvp poly. Have a hiniker 8foot straight blade that was trouble free but as said many times here. Dealer makes all the difference.
     
  11. Western1

    Western1 Senior Member
    from MI.
    Messages: 679

    You should ask.
     
  12. 2006Sierra1500

    2006Sierra1500 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,758

    I don't think the MVP+ got UM2, from their website it looks like its only the MVP3, and Prodigy got it
     
  13. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    Beat me to it. I discovered this by accident about 10+ years ago. Boss wiring is so simple. Switched relays, headlight adapters, etc. No confusing electrical BS mess like the Westerns, especially the newer ones. Troubleshooting nightmares. Boss mounts are great too. They found a great design and stuck with it for what, almost 20 years? IDK but it's been a while. Even RT2's were nice for mounting. They had simple down to a science back when there were still conventionals lol.

    I'm not even a Boss guy but I'll back that up anyday. Install some new plows of all brands and you'll soon learn how great Boss really is. New Ultras are great for mounting, but start messing with used ones and see how much they're really not.

    Nothing beats the PH1 Blizzard IMHO. Too bad DD screwed that one up too. I have 5 PH1 PP's and still trying for more. I want to get the last of a good thing while I still can. One Boss and one Unimount too. You won't seen me own an Ultra. I've fought with one too many of them. :mechanic:
     
  14. nealybird

    nealybird Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    those are the first ones that will get it, and nobody would have any yet. there won't be any UM2 stuff ready to ship until later in the summer. If you are shopping for an MVP3 or Prodigy you won't have to worry about not getting ultramount 2, but if you buy an MVP+, Wideout, or any straight plow you will have to ask the distributor what they have in stock.
    I would say most people around the country who buy preseason will not be able to get Ultramount 2's on those models, because Western won't be shipping them until they run out of the current Ultramount big boxes.
     
  15. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    Any more insight as to when the new ultramount 2's availability, I have a new superduty on order and am planning on putting a wideout on it but want the new design.
     
  16. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    I just picked up a 2013 SD today, also ready to order new MVP 3.
     
  17. 04hd

    04hd Senior Member
    from WI
    Messages: 170

    I saw your recent post. I have a question for you on my new mvp plus (8.5 poly). I am wondering about the blade stops ( maybe called something else) My plow didnt come with them and my dealer told me that I really dont need them. Im saying b.s. to that seems like they would give it way more strength when v'd back and opening hard crusted stuff. So whats your thoughts?? (sorry for the long story) Thanks for your time.
     
  18. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,202

    I have 2 MVP's both around 5 years old. I haven't had any problems with either one of them. Easy to mount and the pivot bar works great.

    As far as the stops go you should be fine without them. I thought they were only on the 9'6" model, much heavier plow.
     
  19. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    I added them for peace of mind. There is a lot of leverage with a long wing. I didn't want to risk of bending or blowing a ram. I think I paid 125 for the set, they could made up cheaper by any machine shop/welder.
     
  20. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,551

    Like most things in life, the standard becomes an option. I believe the older MVP frames had them from the factory.