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Trynex Snow EX Tailgate Spreader????

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Dockboy, Jan 6, 2001.

  1. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    Has anyone used one of these spreaders?

    I saw one on a truck like mine today. I liked the way it looked and the fact that the top was below the tailgate. Also liked the hitch receiver mount.

    Picture of one here http://www.langsautoaccessories.com/products/snowplow/trynex.htm

    Let me know what you guys think.

    Oh, by the way, got to plow some yesterday :D Finally!!!

    Was dying to try my new V. Pretty awsome:)

    Greg
     
  2. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    Got one, but unless you get the small version it still sticks up above the tailgate. And they work better if you get the vibrator to keep material flowing.
     
  3. jrblawncare

    jrblawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 121

    I see a few snow X spreaders down here and almost got one,but went with the western.Keep in mind these speaders are better when using dry, free flowing products.
     
  4. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
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    Thanks guys,

    Alan, do you know about how much the vibrator option is?

    Greg
     
  5. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    Just from memory I'm thinking the vibe kit was very close to $300. Made all the difference in the world though. Material bridged all the time before I put it on, now I can even run sand, as long as there are no pebbles big enough to jam the feed throat.
     
  6. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    Thanks Alan

    Greg
     
  7. iowastorm

    iowastorm Senior Member
    Messages: 358

    I have one and it's a piece of crap. The company produced a defective baffle that didn't keep the material in the spreader. After finally getting a correct baffle, you can't put too much material into it or it'll overload. I'm trading it in for another slider hopper unit. Save your money and don't buy it.
     
  8. jaclawn

    jaclawn Member
    Messages: 92

    I've got one. IT is a good spreader, but it does have a few quirks.

    The one that mounts to the trailer hitch is the smaller version of the one that I have. I like the larger one, but it does stick up a little past the tailgate.

    I have the swing away mount on mine. It is invaluable. You can open the tailgate, and load material.

    Now, for the quirks.

    1. The vibrator kit($400.00) is almost manditory. There are only a few products that will flow freely from this unit without the aid of the vibrator. After adding the vibrator, the spreading waws improved 100%. If you are going to use a bagged product like Calcium, or Lesco Melt, or something of a consistent size and texture, the vobrator could be optional. I have seen too many varibles in salt to do without the vibrator.

    2. At times, most notablely when the hopper is full, if you drive the truck around not spreading material, (when plowing, or a fair distance between jobs), the material will pack around the auger, and the motor does not have enough torque to start. You have got to hop out of the truck, and give the spinner plate a half turn or so. This only happens if you leave the salt in the hopper for a while, and there is sufficent agitation to let it settle.

    3. I would like to see the wiring harness long enough to allow the speader to be swung open while still plugged in. Unplugging the thing to open it is a minor inconvience, but I am concerned about water entering the plugs, and causing problems. I have not had any problems, but would rather see them sealed for the season.

    4. The wiring harness for the vibrator is WAYYY TOO short. IT barely reaches the truck bumper.

    5. The control box in the cab is varible speed. The problem is that after you shut it off, it automatically resets to the middle position the next time you start it. This is inconvienent to say the least. Also, the spread settings are controlled by up and down arrows, and it takes too long to get it set, especially since you will have to set it each time you shut the spreader off. I think that they have updated the controller box to adress these issues.


    All in all, it is a deacent spreader. I really like the nounting system, the bulk of the load is carried by the trucks bumper, and not the tailgate or bed. It also does not require many modifications to the truck, other than a few holed drilled in the top of the bumper.
     
  9. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    Updates to SnowEx controls

    We absolutely hated the control box that came with ours. It was that touch pad thing that you have and if yours hasn't failed yet you've been lucky. We went through four of them before the warranty was up. They would turn themselves on while you were driving. Real nice, if you didn't notice the thing light up you would spread out a whole load of material by accident.

    I found out that they abandoned that design and went to one with real switches and a dial control for speed. The newer version stays at the speed you set it at and speed changes are as fast as you can turn the dial. I had to rag long and hard, but I got mine replaced with the new design under warranty. Depending on how old yours is you might be able to do the same. All connections are the same so it just plugs in and mounts to your existing bracket.

    As for the hard starting, there was a service bulletin and repair kit out for that. I did the upgrade there as well and got rid of almost all of the instances of the feed auger binding with a load on.

    I did some modifications to mine, which is also the swing mount, to allow me to remove the hopper and leave the brackets in place. We didn't want to be married to it all winter and it was way too much hassle to remove the brakets every time we took it off.
     
  10. jaclawn

    jaclawn Member
    Messages: 92

    Alan- Mine is 3 or 4 years old, and the control pad is still working as intended. Never had the automatic turn on feature happen though. I must be lucky.

    What is the service bulletin for the hard starting situation? What did the repair kit consist of?

    I made a "rack" on a retaining wall at the shop that aloows me to remove the unit by myself. If I have a helper around, it is easy enough to un-do the one bolt, and lift it off.
     
  11. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    The service kit for the hard starting problem consisted of a drill bit, a tongue depressor, several sheet metal screws, and a packet of silicone sealant.

    The problem as too much grease in the gearbox, effectively binding up the gears when it got cold. The cure was to use the drill bit to remove the pop rivets holding the cover on the gearcase, scoop out about half the grease with the tongue depressor, goop the silicone all around the mating surfaces and screw it back on. Sure sounded hokey but it took care of a large percentage of the hard starts with my unit.
     
  12. Iceman

    Iceman Member
    Messages: 31

    The Sno X spreader works but that's about all I can say good about the thing. Our Grotec spreader is much better. It will swing from either side by pulling just one hairpin, where the sno x take 2 hairpins undo two latches and will still only swing one way. The sno x spinner attaches to the shaft by one allen set screw and is made of plastic. The Grotec spinner is steel and connects with a roll pin. The sno x motor is positioned under the spinner, the worst place of all and very susceptible to damage when backing up. The Grotec is sealed in a housing inside the hopper. The one I have been using is four hard seasons old and hasn't given me a minutes trouble. Our sno x is on its first season and has been nothing but trouble.

    As you can see, trying to save a few bucks purchasing the Sno x was a big mistake on my part. Hows that saying go about the oats?
     
  13. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
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    Can you give me some more info on the grotec Iceman?

    Where did you buy it?
     
  14. Iceman

    Iceman Member
    Messages: 31

    We got the Grotec from Scientific in Saginaw,Mi. They may have been bought by Western because some info I got in the mail shows one of Western's tailgate spreaders and it looks exactly like my Grotec only red, mines yellow.
    Even there control box looks like mine.
    Check out there website and you'll see what I mean. All the specs are listed. Need more info let me know.
     
  15. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Whats the full name of Scientific. I may try to reach them for some info.

    We buy some stuff from wildco in Saginaw, which seems like it may also have Scientific in its name.
     
  16. Iceman

    Iceman Member
    Messages: 31

    Scientific Brake and Equipment Co. (517) 755-4411 or the web address is http://www. scientificbrake.com
    Good Luck.
     
  17. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Thanks, Iceman
     
  18. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
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    Thanks for all the input guy's :D

    Still trying to decide what to do and what to purchase.

    I'm a 1 man operation and don't do alot of salting. Right now I use a good rubber tire walk-behind for the customers that want salt. It works well, but with my new V there is no need to get out of the truck anymore!!!

    Greg
     
  19. jaclawn

    jaclawn Member
    Messages: 92

    Re: Updates to SnowEx controls


    Thanks alot PAL. You jinxed me. My control box went to pot this weekend. I was able to "hot wire" it to finish the route though.

    Thanks for your information.
     
  20. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Another option is a Western Pro Flo,the original design.They sit up much higher,but are much narrower so you can see down either side of them.They have a much steeper hopper angle and very rarely will the salt clog or bridge.They are also a reduction drive which gives them much more torque for starting.We have had one for several years,and no problems as of yet.They also have a nice control unit,with a variable speed knob which will stay where you put it,and a blast feature.When you turn on the spinner you must push the power button to the blast position first to give it full power to start.According to western,it is only good for bagged salt,but we have used bulk in it as long as it isn't too wet.

    This year I bought a Western 2000 model,which is almost identical to the Grotech model,in fact I think it is the same model,and it sucks.Will only take bagged salt,and it still backs up now and again.Will be taking it back ASAP.