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Trying to steal guys...

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Brian Young, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    I hired a guy who use to plow for a larger company for the past 2 seasons. His biggest complaint was no hours. I hire him on and I have tons of hours plus I'm paying him 3 bucks more per hr than this other company was going to AND we are offering bonuses. He calls me last night to tell me the "other" company is trying to sweet talk him into coming back, something about loyalty, he already knows the route, on and on. Now he says he's in a dilema and he doesnt know what to do. Let me see here--we gave him 3 bucks more per hour, he has at least 10 hrs of plowing and more if he wants it plus a bonus, to me its a no-brainer. I just think its pathetic to try and steal guys from another company.
     
  2. Kramer

    Kramer Senior Member
    Messages: 386

    Tell him to go back to the other guy------you dont need him walking out on you in Feb because the other guy offered him a cigar....

    Good help is hard to find...
     
  3. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Call his bluff in such a way that he won't feel challenged. If he really was offered more by the first company - Do you really want to get into a bidding war with them?

    I'd tell him something like: Well, yeah, you know everybody has to figure out what's best for themselves. Why don't you let me know tomorrow what you decided?
     
  4. dmontgomery

    dmontgomery PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,238

    I would tell him he better go back.......as stated to have him bail mid- season would suck.....
     
  5. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    It sucks for you but wern't you kind of stealing him from them, I know you promised him lots of hours and a bonus but alot of people promise things and don't deliver. I'm not saying you will do this but how does he know that. The other guy probably guilted him into coming back and matched your offer. It suck when you need somebody and then they bail at the last minute. I hope you find somebody else soon. Good Luck
     
  6. LoneCowboy

    LoneCowboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,760

    Whatever you do, don't counter offer
    ever
    People leave for lots of reasons, money is rarely THE reason.
    Let him go.
     
  7. mike33

    mike33 Senior Member
    Messages: 335

    I have the same thing with a employee telling me all the time he needs to borrow gas money so he can make it to work tommorow. I told him today no and if he cant make it tough ****. I would call is bluff dont get suckered like i have lately.
    Mike
     
  8. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    Ive had someone say that about gas before and I have been like, alright well after work I have to fill my truck up so you can follow me and I'll put $20 in, that way I get the reciept. LOL you find out quick they really need it for smokes or poker, or beer.
     
  9. Duracutter

    Duracutter Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 200

    Man, you're having a lot of manpower problems bro...

    "let him go" unless you like torture where the employee acts like a diva...

    Seriously, aren't there any temp services in your area??? Give that a try.

    :nod:
     
  10. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    I didnt try to steal him at all. We ran an ad in our local classified section of the paper, he called and applied, I hired him. I didnt "pursue" him at all. I heard throught the grape vine he went back to the other company, I just cant figure for the life of me why.
     
  11. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    No kidding! As far as temp service goes, they would need their own truck and ins. And yeah it seems like there are quite a few guys thinking they run the show as employee's. See what happens when you try to do a good thing!:angry:
     
  12. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    I'm glad you didn't yell at me for saying that but your right you didn't steal him. Some guys just don't think, that's the problem. I have had guys lined up and as soon as it snow, I can't get a hold of them. WTF, they don't understand why I'm upset. I'm sure you'll find another, things generally always workout. Good Luck.