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tractor/blower transmission options explained?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment' started by PTSolutions, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    Now, you've seen my threads about implementing this combo for next year and I am positive about getting at least 1 unit for next year which i will purchase spring/summer.

    I havent really operated larger ag tractors and dont quite understand the trans differences and how they operate and which option would be best for the blower use and would a different unit be better for pushing a box in a parking lot?

    we get approx 60-100" of snowfall per season, usually fluffy accumulation, most often in 4" storms, nothing really huge, maybe 10" over 24hrs. So i feel that an m7040 with 84" inverted blower would be a good fit. If i get a couple other lots then I also found good deals on 9540 as well.
  2. PowersTree

    PowersTree Senior Member
    Messages: 586

    I am looking at the same option. I think the power loss through a hydro trans, would be worth the ease of operation as you come up to doors.
  3. leon

    leon Senior Member
    Messages: 872

    tractor snow blower for winter


    You should also look at the M8540 Hydro Narrow Utility Tractor as it is low profile and narrow which aids in ones ability to manuever with an implement off the rear of the tractor and have a front end loader installed for piles you want to get rid of.

    The low center of gravity/low profile allows you to be closer in the ground to see the area around the tractor in all directions.

    The use of a cab cam will also aid you in the tractor and blower as it will increase your visibility with the infrared camera's as well for front and rear when working.

    As you have to back uo with the tractor and drive forward anyway, I personally would want a different blower like the pronovost PXPL-86 if it was my choice as it allows you more ability to handle any and all the snow issues and any snow depths in my opinion.

    you will want three sets of remotes if you purchase a blower that has a rotating drum for
    snow casting as one will be needed for the chute rotation, a second for the scraper and ther third for the drum rotation

    An inverted with a hydraulic blade will clean up to the garage door jas as the PXPL does
    and with down pressure to scrape the pavement as long as it has the tivar blade to avoid scratching.

    The PXPL has a twin auger set up and very large impeller
    even for the PXPL-86 which is rated for a 50 horse power tractor,
    and it can have a solid ribbon also just like some of the inverteds.

    The only way you will be comfortable with any machine is to run it,
    and run it, and run it at night, during the day, and evenings,
    and in so doing every action and reaction becomes second nature to you.

    By driving in traffic; paking backing with the blower raised-this is where the
    CAB CAM will really shine for you especially if you are backing up in heavy
    snows with the lights on with or without the inverted blower.

    The Kubota Narrow M8540 has heat, air, and positive pressure ventilation to eliminate
    fumes in the the tractors cabin. the muffler is below the tractor out of the way and will not obstruct your field of view.

    The air filters for the cabin are in the roof line and you will only need a small step
    ladder to change them when required.

    You will want to have the kubota optional work lights in front and rear and the high
    output alternator is already standard because of the air conditioning system and
    air filtration system.

    My thoughts anyway.
  4. milkie62

    milkie62 Senior Member
    from Troy,NY
    Messages: 231

    Hydro vs shuttle is just like std vs auto on a pickup.Hydro only way to go especially if most of the storms are as small as you say.
  5. newhere

    newhere PlowSite.com Addict
    from Fenton
    Messages: 1,288

    son of a beotch, i typed out a massive reply and it didn't post.

    long story short....my tractor is shipping tomorrow.....i went hydro........having some custom stuff made for the front......blower on the back.......cant wait....tired of working my balls off
  6. merrimacmill

    merrimacmill PlowSite.com Addict
    from MA
    Messages: 1,822

    What did you end up with?
  7. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    see, ive used the hydro trans in smaller 20-30 hp units just wasnt sure if it was the same in a larger tractor.

    so a 12spd unit with hydro shuttle would prolly be the best option from what ive been reading.

    the shuttle is how you change from forward to reverse correct?

    what trans did you get in your units?
  8. merrimacmill

    merrimacmill PlowSite.com Addict
    from MA
    Messages: 1,822

    My M7040's have hydraulic shuttle shift. There is a H pattern 4 speed shifter, 2 ranges (hi, low), and a forward, neutral, reverse lever on the column. Advantage is that it can be shifted from forward to reverse without clutching.
  9. Jacobsmovinsnow

    Jacobsmovinsnow Senior Member
    Messages: 315

    A hydraulic shuttle is a must in a tractor. Forget the clutch and shift into reverse method, youll be replacing tranny gears in a number of years if you get the wrong guy on the machine and doesnt give a crap wether he grinds em before he finds em.
  10. excav8ter

    excav8ter Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    This is going to be a good thread.
    Exactly the info I am looking for. Actual tractor model numbers and blower models too. I have been thinking about going with a front mount blower, however, the inverted looks pretty good too. perhaps an inverted for now and maybe a plow on the front. Or maybe an Ebling or something similar on the back and a blower on the front. Decisions, decisions, decisions....

    Keep the info coming guys.
  11. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,032

    Hydrostatic has slow road speeds and is expensive to maintain. IVT and CVT are the modern version of hydro without the negatives. That being said I'd still go with a hydraulic shuttle. The clutches are so light that it won't bother you at all to run for long periods. Don't try and reinvent the wheel take what Neige and others have fleets of and go from there.
  12. lawnproslawncar

    lawnproslawncar Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    I'm looking at setting up a Fendt Vario reversing station tractor with a blower big enough to load semi's if need be. Main use will be blowing piles back immediately after or during events if we get big enough snowfall. I'm doing all commercial/condo work next year though.
  13. cmo18

    cmo18 Senior Member
    Messages: 814

    If im reading correctly, hydro shuttle you only have to clutch when switch from 1-2 or l-h? You dont have to clutch when going from R-N-F?
  14. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,032

    You don't have to clutch f-r but we always do. Its hard to do detailed work not using the clutch. When switching ranges you have to clutch but not when using the power shift. Generally compact tractors are over priced for what they are your better stepping up to a bigger tractor with hydro shuttle for very little money.
  15. plowatnight

    plowatnight Senior Member
    from Mn
    Messages: 305

    Ive had (5) 25-35 hp over the years all hydro, I just traded for "05 Kubota 5030 w/loader , and my dealer figured out how to skinny the thing down 62" wide so I could continue to use my 60" rear 3pt blower for Public sidewalks. In a word, I'm THRILLED with this setup as I can drive this rig across town in less time than I could haul my TC34 when you take into consideration loading/chaining time. I fabbed up a 9.5 blade for the loader and I'm thinking that in most cases, this will make my Pickup nearly obsolete. I pull garage doors with the blade and can pile at least 12+ feet high, or pull snow into the street and quickly blow it into the yard, I would only go with hydro, but thats just me
  16. pmorrissette

    pmorrissette Senior Member
    Messages: 175

  17. bi-directional

    bi-directional Member
    Messages: 68


    That set up is nice but big money. There's a county not far from me that has one I think it's a 920 with a 10 foot triple auger blower.
  18. lawnproslawncar

    lawnproslawncar Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    At least we can help justify the expense in the summer months putting it to work on a hay mower and slurry spreader. Plus I think I can get our city to start using us loading out semis post storm because they are tight on budget money and their blower is getting worn out.
  19. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    Lawnspro, I think you could come up with a better idea than the Fendt. It's one of the most expensive set ups with the least dealer support in your area. That said, I've looked at one also, just couldn't figure out how to make use of it.
  20. lawnproslawncar

    lawnproslawncar Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    Vanderloop is 40 minutes from me. What would you suggest for loading dumps?