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Traction Weight

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by chasity2682, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. chasity2682

    chasity2682 Member
    from canada
    Messages: 76

    I run an F350 with a western plow and the traction sucks in 2 wheel. I see other guys using just 2 wheel drive trucks. What kind of weight should I be running in the bed...:confused:
     
  2. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    Not knowing anything about the size of the blade, I would suggest about a ton of weight for ballast and traction. You can also remove the duals in favor of single rears in the winter, that will also help with traction.
     
  3. chasity2682

    chasity2682 Member
    from canada
    Messages: 76

    I suppose that info might help. It's an 8 Ft Straight blade and weighs about 900 LBS. The truck is only single rear wheel already, I already have 600LBS in the back. People argue me all the time that a duallly is better in the snow than a single, I disagree because that would dispers the weight would it not.
     
  4. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    I don't run any weight in mine. I plow in 4 all the time ,that's what it's for.
     
  5. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180



    You will need 3,500 cement block to do that. I just drove 3 ford trucks with cement block it huge impact on my decision for next winter it will be F350 2wd no more 4wd for me. It can moving frozen snowpile without slow down or spin.

    My F250 with 4wd would stop and spin. 3500 lb is overkill for F250.
     
  6. chasity2682

    chasity2682 Member
    from canada
    Messages: 76

    I believe I hear a little sarcasm there, I want to plow some of my lots in 2 wheel to save on gas but I can barely drive on the road in 2 wheel drive
     
  7. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    Don't believe me?

    1 is F350 2 is F450. If you look bed there are grey cement block sit in middle of axle. They never got stuck.

    Check this picture.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    Adequate ballast weight will help with pushing. Last storm we had was 8" of wet cement snow. With about 1500# in the bed and a 1000# 810 up front, I was tipping the scales right at 10,500#. The truck pushed well, but could use another 1000# or so in the back.

    As long as you're legal, there's no such thing as too much weight.
     
  9. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Your not going to be burning up that much in gas plowing in 4 wheel. It will cost more for new tires from spinning them.
     
  10. Dewey

    Dewey Senior Member
    Messages: 438

    I agree with you .. I remove my duells and run singles when I'm plowing.. But I do have weight on 2yd sander that I fill about half way
     
  11. chasity2682

    chasity2682 Member
    from canada
    Messages: 76

    That is insane looking I thought you were just f***** with me. Are you not worried about the axels or suspension with those 3500LB blocks.
     
  12. chasity2682

    chasity2682 Member
    from canada
    Messages: 76

    I am pushing 10,000lbs just with the truck plus another 1500 with the plow and 3/4" steel plate in the back.
     
  13. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    my truck empty= 8500lbs (scale verified)
    boss 9.2vxt =990lbs
    ballast=800lbs
    total weight=10,290

    and i still need 4x4 quite often.
     
  14. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,181

    We run 960lbs in our 09 f-350 and it could use a little more. This summer I will build a nice rack to hold about 1400lbs.
    This truck seams to get good traction with the stock tires though (the cheep 17in tires). My brother always runs it but I ran it 2 storms ago and ran 2wd almost the whole time with a 4 inch snowfall and a 8.6 boss straight.
    Robert
     
  15. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    You're joking.... Right?
     
  16. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180


    It not my fleet trucks. It belong to 1 member here that was my good friend.

    They not worry about break anything.

    Honest rear axle in Ford rated like 5,800 but lot people push over that and no issues.

    First I thought it was too heavy and break anything after I test drive I knew it have no issues but you could notice diesel work hard.

    You could try find smaller cement block like 2,500 and see if it help.


    I prefer not use 4wd why it expenisve to rebuilt every year for worn out u joints.
     
  17. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412


    You guys should just use shovels... Oh, and walk to your accounts with the shovels. That way you wouldn't burn any fuel or wear the truck out. :waving: :laughing:
     
  18. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    Why not use the 4wd, you paid for it when you bought the truck. I bet you would use more fuel carrying 3500 pounds than using 4wd and 500-700 pounds of ballast. Plus it will stop better with less weight. Just my 2 cents.
     
  19. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    cubicinches

    Honest if you calculate how much it cost to maintenance on 4wd truck compare to 2wd truck.

    Honest lot 4wd trucks I have wear out u joints so fast when you turn wheel tons time and plow wet snow.


    I just like truck that don't need maintenance every winter for new u joints. And it no fun when lock out hub isn't work.



    I can drop Trac Tru in rear axle, 3k pound in bed, and able to plow like tank
     
  20. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    You may be able to plow bigger lots with 2WD but in 90% of short run or driveways you WILL need 4WD to be able to do the best job.
    Plowing in 2WD requires more speed to push the same amount of snow that 4WD will push at moch slower and safer speeds.
    Maintenence is maintenence...no matter whay you drive you still need to do it. It is a cost of doing business