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To Timbren or not.....?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by Turf Commando, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. Turf Commando

    Turf Commando Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    Alright guys, I have (91) F-150 Western pro blade weighing in at 690 lbs ...
    Whats the best way to beef up front end suspension Timbrens Or Heavy Duty coils springs..

    Asked this question to different suspension shops and nobody can answer one way or other...I know some ballast will help but I need support also...

    Pic shows some front end sagging, already replaced front shocks and rear with Monroe sensa trac...
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  2. Indy

    Indy Senior Member
    Messages: 704

    Yes on Timbrens
     
  3. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    Definitely timbrens....HD coils would help also probably be a bit nicer to drive on than having a lot of weight on the timbrens! Just depends how much money/time you want to spend on this issue!
     
  4. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    x3 and ballast;).
     
  5. Turf Commando

    Turf Commando Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    Timbrens must be one hell of a product...
     
  6. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    there cheap and easy. Kind of a cheater.

    i have them.

    I vote coils though. If you want to do it right let the suspension shop do their job without looking for a easy way out. otherwise enjoy your new timbrens
     
  7. fordmstng66

    fordmstng66 Senior Member
    Messages: 527

    I vote for the Heavy Duty Coils. They are not as expensive as you may think. I had a 95 F150, and i went with the HD Coils, and no Timbrens. Never had a problem with the alignment even with the plow raised.
     
  8. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    All of the above. I actually saw one of these trucks once, well..........a buddie at the time got one at the sale and soon mounted a Unimount on it. Lifted the blade and thought something was wrong with the plow b/c it didn't come off the ground. Well, guess what? The lift arm was up, the springs couldn't take the weight. He'd lift the plow, and the truck would squat like 6"!! He put air bag inserts in it and it fixed the problem.
     
  9. ServiceOnSite

    ServiceOnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 935

    i would say springs before timbrens. that thing looks like the wheels are tucked waaaaaaaaaaaay up the if the fender well
     
  10. CARDOCTOR

    CARDOCTOR PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,310

    on the few bronco's we use to use the coil were alway replaced with hd"s i think moog make a set for plowing

    JR
     
  11. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    ballast will NOT lighten the front end....it will but it will take several thousand pounds in the bed behind the rear axle or several hundred pounds hanging 10feet behind the truck

    but yeah you aught to have a little ballast in thier for traction

    i would check in to the airbags or the HD coil's. the timbren's are a bandaid!

    i, myself would rather have the airbag's....but if you don't mind beeting youre head against the roof, then by all means go with the coil's or if you don't mind alway's running around on your bumpstop's:rolleyes: then go with the timbrens.

    i know alot of times thier is not alot of other cheap option's but....timbrens do wear out and it is nothing more than a stiffer bumpstop and the axle or the truck frame wasnt made to carry around that much weight directly on the bumpstop's will it do it?...yeah but why not do it the best way you can?

    B&B what's youre suggestion?

    PJ
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    If you chose to go the new spring route stay away from the springs that come in a "lift kit" or that are for off roading. They will give you a lift but they are much softer and they will not hold up your plow very well.

    Yea, get the stiff springs if you want that nice soft ride to go away and be replaced with a harsh ride. You will only notice the timbrens when you have the plow mounted.

    I Use timbrens and I have up graded springs too, some times both at the same time



    Hey pj.....:waving:pumpkin:
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2008
  13. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    hey what pumpkin: lol

    i said it wouldnt lighten the front end.....i didnt say it wouldnt lift the plow higher.

    the plow hangs....what?........5 feet in front of the wheel?


    so if you lower the back end it raisis the plow but the front axle didnt unload much. (maybe 50:1 ) ? it's just leverage.

    i need help.....SF is picking on me :cry: lmao

    PJ
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2008
  14. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    cry baby. Are you hurt? No? Then stop crying.pumpkin:
     
  15. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    "HEY LOOK MA'......I CAUGHT ME ONE OF THEM THERE SNOFARMER'S ":D now what do i do with it?.....maybe i aught to beat it in the head with a stick:D lmao



    i don't get it :confused: so witch is it? lol
     
  16. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574


    1.Do you have a Lic to hunt snofarmers?


    2, Both.pumpkin: It's elementary physics.
     
  17. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    elemenary physic's?.......here we go with the 3rd grade stuff again lmao



    B&B where are you lol
     
  18. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    Stop yelling for your dad...
    Your in the 3rd grade now. We don't like whiners or tattletales , that's for 2nd grade cry babes...pumpkin:
    so the only one you trust is B&B? Well if that's how you are.............


    actally, We are very proud of Pj it only took him 2 try's to pass the 2nd grade.
     
  19. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    Is this ballast behind the rear wheels, if so we'll call it counter ballast, if it's ahead of the rear axle it's just ballast. That's what Elite told me anyway.:D
     
  20. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    No wonder you get by with so much :rolleyes: lol

    Second grade was a PITA,,,,,i kept argueing with the teacher about elementary physic's.....i kept trying to tell her that common sence would be what we would use when we hooked plows up, haha

    where is Eilte anyway haha