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To flush or drop pan?

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by DAZ982500, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. DAZ982500

    DAZ982500 Senior Member
    Messages: 142

    I usually have tranny looked at after each season.I was talking to someone when I got a price from dealership for transmission svs 150.00 bucks I thought this was high, he said it was proabably due to flushing system instaed of dropping pan.In this case were talking 95.00 bucks.The difference,he said, you are removing only 40% of oil in second case in the flushing method 100% removed then refill.I am thinking I would prefer to spend the extra$$ to have it done right.Thoughts on this.Thanks Dave.
     
  2. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
    Messages: 253

    I just had mine serviced and it cost 89$ They took the pan off and checked it out. I never take anything to a dealership
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,483

    I agree, the dealership will price gouge you.
    I have the pan dropped, replace the filter and have it flushed for around $90 to $120 (i can't remember exactly it was last year lol) at the corner lube shop.
    I have it done in the spring, some do it in the fall. I think it's best to do it in the spring.
     
  4. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    I just had my 2x4 f-350 done Monday, dropped the pan, changed the filter, got the oil out of the torque converter, 100.00
     
  5. justme-

    justme- 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,138

    I have the pan dropped and the filter flushed (bronze filter in mine- aftermarket) and the bands adjusted and such for like $65. Never bothered to have any trans flushed, and never heard a tranny specialist actually recomend flushing, only Jiffy lube!
     
  6. festerw

    festerw Senior Member
    Messages: 986

    Yup have the pan dropped and the bands adjusted. Go to the dealer or buy the ATF+4 for the service station to use and watch them pour it in, there are too many that will refill it with Dexron and then you'll be buying a new transmission.
     
  7. drifter79

    drifter79 Member
    from pacific
    Messages: 42

    festerw, is right when I bought my truck used 01 2500 ctd I had trans flushed and full service at the dealers just to make sure they put type-4 fluid in. I have tried to buy a local auto stores can only buy at dealers.:)
     
  8. Alaska Tim

    Alaska Tim Member
    from Alaska
    Messages: 42

    Definately

    Drop the pan every year, & change out the fluid & filter. I as well think spring is the best (after the plow season). Dealers will gouge you like stated. However, buy the Chrysler ATF. Its cheap insurance for the life of the truck.
     
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,483

    Drop the pan and change the filter..
    The owners manual for my 98 2500, calls for ATF+3 or type7176
    And for my 01 2500, the owners manual (p213) call for ATF+3 or type 7176 should be used.
     
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,483

    Toss the owners manual in the trash lol. so why do they recomend atf+3 still after there sercice buliten???
    You guys wree right but you could still use atf+3?

    NOTE: This bulletin applies to all transmissions manufactured by Chrysler except for 1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE transmission, This Service Bulletin DOES NOT apply to all AW-4 transmissions, Sprinter transmissions, Crossfire transmissions and WG bodies equipped with a W5J400 or NAG1 transmission (sales code DGJ).

    Discussion:
    A new transmission fluid (ATF+4 - Type 9602) has been developed and is being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions.It is recommended that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4.

    NOTE: ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally filled with ATF+4.

    NOTE: Service intervals do not change. The service interval currently in effect for a given vehicle should continue to be followed.

    NOTE: ATF+4 is compatible with ATF+3 and ATF+2. ATF+4 can be used to top off vehicles that currently have ATF+2 or ATF+3. Do not use ATF+2 or ATF+3 to top off vehicles that have ATF+4 fluid.

    BENEFITS

    Better anti-wear properties
    Improved rust/corrosion prevention
    Controls oxidation
    Eliminates deposits
    Controls friction
    Retains anti-foaming properties
    Superior properties for low temperature operation
    FLUID COLOR

    Mopar ATF+4T is a World Class Fluid having exceptional durability. However, the red dye used in ATF+4T is not permanent; as the fluid ages it may become darker or appear brown in color. ATF+4T also has a unique odor that may change with age. With ATF+4T fluid, color and odor are no longer indicators of fluid condition and do not support a fluid change
     
  11. Alaska Tim

    Alaska Tim Member
    from Alaska
    Messages: 42

    Thoughts.......

    Whats your thoughts on Royal Purple-MAX ATF Tranny fluid ?? other than the cost is fairly exspensive. Anyone used or considered this product ??:sleeping:
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2006
  12. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    You guys with high millage over 50-80K and have never done it be ware... Changing it has lead to slipping because the tarnish buildup on the small parts may actually be sealing small scores. Once it's flushed and cleaned out it is very common for them to start slipping.

    It best to do it regularly from the start.
     
  13. Alaska Tim

    Alaska Tim Member
    from Alaska
    Messages: 42

    Royal Purple

    Guess they don't offer Royal Purple for the Dodge p/u's, I thought they did, until I did more research & they e-mailed me. At this time it's not available.
    Stick w/ the ATF+4. Like the Sno-Farmer said. Good read dude.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2006
  14. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    I'd have it flushed and drop the pan and change the filter. $150 service on a $30-40K truck is pretty cheap. It's also cheaper than a new tranny.

    BTW, flushing the tranny without changing the filter is like changing your engine oil and not changing the oil filter.
     
  15. justme-

    justme- 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,138

    If you have a Dodge, do not use anything (I don't care what the fluid manufacturer says) but the factory fill or you will cost yourself a transmission!

    What's the point of that service bulletin?? Any vehicle that had a factory fill of ATF+4 needs ATF+4 anyway, any vehicle that came factory with ATF+3 is FINE with ATF+3! ATF+3 is FINALLY available aftermarket, +4 is still dealer only. I'm sure it's better fluid, but is it worth the cost and hassle? Not in my opinion- no problems with +3 and I'll stay with it.
     
  16. KLC99

    KLC99 Senior Member
    Messages: 160

    Dextron does the trick in my cummins 47re. I had the flush done in the 90,000 mile range and switched to dextron based on recommendations from the turbodieselregister. The trans now has 130,000 plowing in the winter, hauling a 20ft enclosed trailer in the summer. All this with some mild mods to the engine---hypertech power programmer, boost elbow, straight pipe exhaust.

    The thing to watch out for is torque converter shudder on lock-up. no shudder = no problem. The rest of the trans is a basic 727+overdrive. If you get the shudder switch back to the synthetic, less grippy fluid.

    I prefer the stronger grip and lower price of the dextron.