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Tired of losing wing edges...please help

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by alsam116, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. alsam116

    alsam116 Senior Member
    Messages: 216

    810 power plow wing bolts snap I guess when the wing gets caught on a curb backing up. I've lost 3 wing edges the past 2 seasons and lost another today. Is there a better way to secure them, threaded rod or ???. Would rubber be a better bet for me so I quit losing the $100 edges? Thank you guys for your help I just am starting to get really pissed. Love the plow so going back to straight blade not an option. Most of what we plow is pre salted so no real hard pack, I just like the wings so I can carry snow when doing loading docks or just drive lanes during day storms.
     
  2. beanz27

    beanz27 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    Stop hitting curbs with the wing out.
     
  3. dstifel

    dstifel Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 188

    Over sized washers??? Maybe flat steel all the way across the face of the wing where the edge bolts on??? Just couple thoughts off top of my head
     
  4. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    I have never heard of anyone experiencing this. I would appreciate if you can give as much information as possible in order to diagnose your problem.
     
  5. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Might have lost out of a bunch, definitely nothing like you're referring to.
     
  6. scottr

    scottr Senior Member
    Messages: 360

    Are the bolt heads sheering off or pulling threw? How hard / fast are you hitting curbs? Maybe this is a good thing? If your hitting hard, the cutting is busting off rather than doing real damage to the wing or box ?? What grade bolts?
     
  7. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,926

    Are the nuts coming off instead of the braking your thinking of?
    Seems like something ain't quite right.
     
  8. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,183

    You say snapping bolts. I'm thinking it's the curb. Those granite curbs around here might take them wings right off. Probably not a super harden bolt to protect wing out. Pass on them curbs bro. Good luck. Thumbs Up
     
  9. alsam116

    alsam116 Senior Member
    Messages: 216

    The bolt heads are what is poping off. I use the bolts that come with the edge set. Could be losing them while actually plowing also I'm not sure but one time was when I was bcking away from the curb from stacking and wing caught the curb itself from the plow being angled a little. I know on one of the lots I lost an edge it is slick concrete with no bumps or bad/ raised control joints(damage). Thank you guys for the quick responses. Mark o are you saying you have lost some before? Does poly crack instead of dissappering into a pile somewhere? I was just thinking rubber so I could still carry snow and push wide when needed and have flex when it grabs something it shouldn't. I forgot to add the edges that came on the used plow when I bought it had the round pin that slides in the wing hole itself. I hope you guys understand that. The new edges don't have the round pin on them do you think the round pin would give it a little less flex when hitting something and not break the bolts?
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2016
  10. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    I think we have had ONE that fell off completely. We have broken a handful of bolts. I've had around 10 Blizzards and this is definitely not an ongoing issue.

    Are you possibly overtorquing them during install?
     
  11. cl733

    cl733 Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 252

    my 810 just uses a GR8 carriage bolt , but ive never broke one yet , try putting in a GR5 , the GR8 wont take shear forces as good as the softer bolt will, but the wings arent really in a shear position, lift your blade higher, or shim your hitch so you can lift higher
     
  12. leigh

    leigh PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,987

    Almost forgot I had this problem a few years ago.It turned out the edges were not sitting completely flat on the wing.The holes in the wing were buggered enough that the edge would rock enough that it would start popping bolts one at a time.Took a grinder and and ground wing surface so the edge had full contact with the wing.No problems since.Not sure if this relates to your issue though,
     
  13. alsam116

    alsam116 Senior Member
    Messages: 216

    Thanks Leigh.. I think I may or will have to do that after looking at the wing in dayligt the damn sleves the bolts slide into slammed forward with the contact on whatever the edge grabbed on while plowing. I'm going to have to add New wing skin to moldboard or grind down the sleves to make the wings flush. The wings look bent now so I don't know if I need to take the whole wing off plow and retweak before putting new edges on so I can quit losing them. Thank you guys for the help and responses!!
     
  14. redclifford

    redclifford Senior Member
    from Niagara
    Messages: 174

    I have a friend that runs the same plow, he's had issues with them coming loose . he's found them in his snow banks, last Friday he noticed it just in time and tightened them back up before it came off
     
  15. 98Chevy2500

    98Chevy2500 Senior Member
    Messages: 145

    The round pin only came on the older edges that were shipped with the plows installed at the factory, the replacements never came with them. Gr5 only, Gr8 will snap easily, and obviously locknuts. Never lost a wing edge out of seven 810's, smacked a curb on an angle with a F-450 headed downhill loaded with 5-6 tons at 30mph....
     
  16. fireside

    fireside Senior Member
    Messages: 661

    I have been using then since 2000. Its not common at all. Between all of us we have 30 plows. My guess is the bolts are coming lose and the edge is moving. That the only time I have lost a edge. Are the bolts on the side edge breaking too? If you hit a curb backing up the wing should fold forward. The bigger problem with the edges at one point was ripping from hitting curbs