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Time Management

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by havenprosnow, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. havenprosnow

    havenprosnow Member
    Messages: 34

    Thanks for all the input for us "newbies." I am new to the industry in SE Pa. I am trying to help a contractor get bids on commercial sites. When I am at the site I am trying to figure how long it will take to clear a lot with 2-4 trucks. For example, I am looking at a site that square footage says that it is just over an acre (46,750 square feet to be exact). They are also looking for sidewalks to be cleared (843 feet of 3 foot wide sidewalks). Most plows we have range from 7'6" to 8'2". Parking lot has 4 small islands to maneuver around. The range of runs vary from 90 feet to 200 feet. Can anyone help a "brother" out and give me a time estimate that it would take to clear this lot with a 4" dry snow fall?
  2. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    1 hour to an hour and 15 minutes depending on your experience.
  3. Jguck25

    Jguck25 Senior Member
    Messages: 591

    with four trucks? I would say that would be 50 mins or so with two trucks with the small 7.5' blades. But probably and hour and 15 or so with one truck with the 8'2" blade. With a 9 foot blade last year i was able to clear and acre is around an hour with around 5-6 inches of snow
  4. havenprosnow

    havenprosnow Member
    Messages: 34

    Thank you for the help. I assume experience and a tried formula of some sort brought you to that number. Did you base it on an average of 3 trucks?
  5. Jguck25

    Jguck25 Senior Member
    Messages: 591

    Im not too sure you would want three trucks in an area like that.. It would not be that efficient to be honest. Trucks getting in one anothers way and then people not working together as efficiently as possible, it becomes a hassle. I would say you should use two trucks tops.
    The more trucks you add does not exactly cut the time in half..

    Say if you have one truck it will take that truck 100% of the time to plow it.
    Add one more truck it might not cut it in half by 50%, jsut because of the things i mentioned before. Maybe cut the time by say 45%. so say if it takes one truck an hour, if you add the section truck the efficiency for a lot that small will not make it take each truck 30 mins. Probably aorund 35 minutes. If you add the third truck it will not make that 35 minutes too much smaller, maybe cut it down to 20 minutes.
    What i am trying to get at is if you have just one or two trucks do this lot then the other trucks can be out somewhere else being as efficient as possible.

    Same with lawn mowing, it is not efficient to send 5 people out to do lawn mowing. It is not going to be 5 times faster to mow the places, but yet you will be paying 5 times more for wages.
  6. havenprosnow

    havenprosnow Member
    Messages: 34

    All this info is great stuff. I appreciate the time in responding. Hope all my questions are responded to as professional as this one.
  7. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    Sorry I didn't read deep enough. 1 truck should plow an acre per hour on average. The bigger the blade, or something like a V plow or a Wide out, will cut that time by about 10 minutes per acre. Then experience can cut it by about another 10 minutes or so. So what I am saying with the right equipment, and the right experience you could possibly plow a 1 acre lot with no obstructions in 40 to 45 minutes.
  8. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,248

    i can plow an acre in about 30 to 35 minutes with open runs. you only need one truck on that lot.
  9. Jguck25

    Jguck25 Senior Member
    Messages: 591

    But he said that there are obstructions. Thats what i had figured into the times that i gave him. The one acre lot that i did in about 50 minutes also had some obstacles in it, there were no wide open runs
  10. creativedesigns

    creativedesigns PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,929

    .....depends if its an xls blade or not! ;)
  11. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    figure 1 1/2 hours with 1 truck....but with experience it will be less then the 1 1/2 hour
  12. Teamdynamic

    Teamdynamic Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    nilsson associates makes a book with all kinds of snow removal and landscaping production rates
  13. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

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  14. havenprosnow

    havenprosnow Member
    Messages: 34

    Thanks for all the input!