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Timbrens on a Dodge

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by BDEMOTT, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. BDEMOTT

    BDEMOTT Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Just installed Timbrens on my 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 and that was not fun at all. These arent just a bolt on with the Dodge's, its a press fit into the stock bumpstop mount. Just wanted to let everyone know what there getting them selves into before they attempt.

    Easiest thing to do is have 2x4's wedged into the top of the timbren when the truck is up in the air then lower it and a few tries later it will go in.

    Goodluck, Let me know how sucessfull others have been.
     
  2. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    oh boy, thats what I wanted to hear, have'nt installed mine yet.:)
     
  3. JElmWin

    JElmWin Senior Member
    Messages: 232

    May I ask why you went with Timbrens? I have an '03 2500 w/ 8' Fisher and didn't see the need for them.pumpkin:
     
  4. BDEMOTT

    BDEMOTT Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    I installed them because I am getting a Blizzard 810 on monday installed. Just took some percautionary steps to help the frontend as much as possible. A little ballast and I should be all set.
     
  5. JElmWin

    JElmWin Senior Member
    Messages: 232

    What's the weight on that plow? I'm also wondering how you're front end feels w/Timbrens and no plow?:)
     
  6. BDEMOTT

    BDEMOTT Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    The plow weighs 950 plus mounting so about 1000lbs. The truck rides great, once in a wile when you hit a nice pot hole you will feel them stiffen up, other than that not much difference.
     
  7. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

    Forget the big rubber bump stops..It's easer to install new springs....
    Why cover up the problem with a big bump stop??
    It's like putting a band-aid on a broken arm..
    the snow plow prep calls for springs #38 & #39 there easy to install you can do it your self with hand tools in about an hour or two, there threads that will tell you step by step how to do this.
    I'm giving you the best fix for your problem. I know a lot of people are going to tell you get the timbrens but think about it.... on the stock truck from Dodge with a plow prep do they install timbrens? Or do they put stiffer springs in them? your call, but I'd go with the springs and it you want to carry the added weight of your plow get stiffer ones all of the way up to a #46 #47 combo for those heavy plows. Good luck:waving:
     
  8. Robbie Rooster

    Robbie Rooster Member
    Messages: 33

    I had problems installing my at first also. After an hour of trying to get just one of them to push into the bracket, I finally put a little grease around them and had both of them installed with in the next 5 minutes. Grease them up a little, not too much, jack up the truck and put about 2 to 3 2x4's under them, then drop the jack, smashes them right up in.
     
  9. danno

    danno Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    I had the same problem on my 96. Even doing the 2x4 trick I still couldn`t get `em in. I called the company, and they said to also try jacking up the opposite end of the truck to put pressure on the corner you`re working on. STILL DIDN`T WORK!

    Called them back again! Finally a rep got on the phone and said they might be manufactured 1/4 inch too large. try filing one end down !

    Well I used a rasp to file them, and FINALLY got them to pop in. PITA. But, glad I got `em!

    As far as using Timbrens over heavier springs. What % of the time are you gonna be lugging a plow around in a year ? :rolleyes:

    If your smart, as least as possible ! Why give up a better ride 90 something % of the time. :confused:

    Timbrens don`t affect the suspension until the plow is on. :nod:

    BTW, my truck came with the snow prep, and I still put them on. ;)
     
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

    The timbrens shorten the travel of the suspension, the result is that you are bottoming out all of the time. (riding on the timbren) the spring absorbs the energy over a longer period of time resulting is longer life of the suspension and a smother ride.
    When you order a truck with the plow prep package do they slap in big bump stops or do they install heaver springs?
     
  11. jsr2741

    jsr2741 Junior Member
    Messages: 8

     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

     
  13. jsr2741

    jsr2741 Junior Member
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  14. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

     
  15. kingriver

    kingriver Senior Member
    from alaska
    Messages: 217

    1997 Dodge 3/4 4x4

    I was considering putting Timbrens on the front of this truck, it has been hauling a plow during winter months, for the past 4 years, western MVP 8'. I had to replace the upper and lower ball joints drivers side, and it was suggested to check the shocks since they were probably factory, sure enough they were completly wore out. I am looking for several more seasons with this truck so would I be wise to get # 47/46 springs and put them on ?:cool:
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2005
  16. justme-

    justme- 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,138

    You've never driven a diesel have you? The diesel Rams have the 47/48 springs factory and bottom out ALL the time- the front end weight is as if a V8 with a plow. Timbrins are a spring too, not just a bump stop. If you want the front end to ride hard ad he!! all the time put in the diesel springs (which is what the 47/48 set is), otherwise install the timbrins. the older trucks are supposed to be bolt ons through the bump stop cup.

    stiffer springs will NOT help ball joints, just FYI.
     
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

    He never said he had a oil burner.:confused:
    I installed the 46# 47# springs and the ride is firm, not spongy like a 1/2ton.
    we are talking about trucks that were going to use as work trucks not cruising the boulevard. There is no one perfect set up some are better than others.
     
  18. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

    I went with the 47/46 combo because, when you push snow over the curb you lift the plow and your front end goes down and the plow rests on the curb and you have to drag the plow back over it and as you back up. And it stops the truck from bottoming out too.
    I have a Boss V 8.2 rt2 on a 98 2500 and have yet to bottom out with this combo. On my other truck 01 2500with 38/39 plow prep and a 8.5 Hiniker (there a fairly light plow) works good, I just wanted heaver springs for the truck with the V plow. I like it and it works good I would go this route before using timbrens. IMO

    Kingriver is that the truck with a oilburner if so you all ready have the 46/47 combo, look at coil spacers or air bags. I'd try the air bags first.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2005
  19. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,468

    Rember when trucks were trucks and cars were cars??:confused:
     
  20. kingriver

    kingriver Senior Member
    from alaska
    Messages: 217

    . I'd try the air bags first.[/QUOTE]
    Oil Burner --No Gas it is the v-8 360--So I could install the 47-46 diesel springs on it correct ? If this is the case, could I just install *Timbrens* ? Wouldnt that be alittle cheaper and work as well ? Would they help ? I actually have that same problem, if I push up over a curb, then lift the plow everything drags as I back off, and I do have lots of weight aft, around 2/3rds the plows weight. Thanks:cool: