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thinking of getting started for short money

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by dmk395, Jan 21, 2001.

  1. dmk395

    dmk395 Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    I would like to start plowing with a friend of mine. We figured we could get into the plowing business with 2 snowblowers for around $2000, just to see what would happen, rather than risk $5000 at least in startup money for a plow truck. I own a landscape company already and have at least 30 potential residential drives to plow, at probably $30 avergage each driveway, 10 feet by 70 feet avergage size. What would u do, go for the cheap low risk way, or bet the farm , so to speak?
     
  2. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    If you're only going to be using snow blowers, I would get some decently large ones, or maybe a tractor with a blower on it. That way you can get them all done in a reasonable amount of time.

    -Tim
     
  3. 4 Saisons

    4 Saisons Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    http://www.whiteoutdoor.com/Scripts/Common/Generic_Nav.asp?Brand=2&Content=160&Nav=2&prod=822

    MTD have done great improvement to the gears box and upgrade few bushing to bearing. The steer control is very helpful.

    I have also 3 12/33 MTD, 6 & 7 years old, Work great with appropriate maintenance and need some rebuild after 5 seasons.

    This is the blower I use this years for a residential routes. If your 30 customer are close, no more than 3 to 4 hours will be need for one guys to clean all them once.

    I went back to university last years for a green certificate, so using my corolla 4wd give me nice profits and a lot of time to study during the winter.
     
  4. Michael F

    Michael F Senior Member
    Messages: 203

    Stay away from the doing it with a friend idea, been there done that, one ends up doing most of the work & with your own business most of the liability, the other thinks he should still get half the money.
     
  5. 4 Saisons

    4 Saisons Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    Michael is right, This is the way i start my bizz and this give me more problems than advantage. I loose too much money from this experience.
     
  6. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    If you are only going to use snowblowers, stick to small residential drives. You can't take on parking lots or large drives with your snowblower. The end result will be very low profit margins, and you will decide that plowing with a snowblower isn't for you.

    Geoff
     
  7. 1st impressions

    1st impressions Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    dmk395


    I have a Toro single stage with the 6.5h.p. engine.Cost me $700 new. Originally bought to do sidewalks etc. but found
    myself using it on driveways also. Takes me about the same amount of time as plowing and it does a better job getting down to the pavement. Light enough to get out of truck by yourself.

    I agree with Michael Froncyk. No need for a partner.
     
  8. 4 Saisons

    4 Saisons Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    use a set of ramp to unload your blower, you will save a lot of precious.
     
  9. columbiaplower

    columbiaplower Senior Member
    Messages: 311

    if ur using blowers get a platform that will slide into ur hitch tube. Get one that tilts for easy loading
     
  10. Evan528

    Evan528 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 153

    my little toro 4.5 hp snow blower is onyl 75 pounds.... its a breex to lift right out of the truck...lot faster than ramps!
     
  11. turfcat75

    turfcat75 Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    BET the FARM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. 4 Saisons

    4 Saisons Senior Member
    Messages: 260

    Another tricks. To avoid wasting time to secure your blower in your bedtruck, use 2 pieces of 2"X4", one in front, one behind the snowblower wheels.
     
  13. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    forget the partner idea

    i wouldnt buddy up unless you get 70% and your buddy gets 30%, also if the drives are close together just get a compact tractor with a plow or loader on it and drive from site to site,you can get them for around 1500-3000 used, i see people with them going down the road all the time after a storm.
    As for verry small parking lots with a blower, it can be done, it is just like a wide driveway.
     
  14. Deere John

    Deere John Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    Ditch the partner idea - partners are usually only good for splitting the spoils. Been there too.

    Since this year is a wash for a startup, look at your business plan and your present equipment with an eye towards next year. If a 4x4 pickup is in the works, then go with a professional (ie insurance) arm to the business. Agree with your partner that you are going to use the customer list as a basis from which to grow, and that the plowing is your show.

    Never did like snowblowers.
     
  15. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,011

    Just dont end up like the blazer I saw sunday, backed his platform, snowblower and all, right through a garage door (next door to my customer)

    Still lol thinking about it!
     
  16. Frank

    Frank Member
    Messages: 35

    forget the partner. half the money you give him you could have bought the plow. if you get a windy day with the snow blowing in your face you will wish you had plow.