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Steel Skid Tracks?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by ColumbiaLand, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    Ok, did some searching and did not come up with the best info. I recently bought a 248 cat skid, I just bought a 10' protech for it. We did a large land clearing job and I put the steel over the tire tracks for better traction in the woods and they were great. Question is can I leave them on for snow removal on a paved lot? Would they even help? They are just a pain to take on and off. They do not have any studs installed. Here is a crappy cell pone pick from the other day when we were logging:

    Skid Tracks.jpg
     
  2. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    I wouldn't go near blacktop with them on for a few reasons
    - No traction, think how easy your cutting edge slides.
    - Leave scuff/spin marks on the pavement wherever you go.
    - Probably ride like hell and be annoying
     
  3. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    I can't remember the brand of tracks, I will get that and a better picture up close of the tracks. I'm going over to meet with the owner at the site in a bit.
     
  4. snocrete

    snocrete Banned
    Messages: 2,862

    Exactly....been there done that. They ABSOLUTELY SUCK on pavement when pushing snow.
     
  5. the new boss 92

    the new boss 92 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,989

    yea i drove a skid with thoughs metal tracks on pavement once, bad plan its worth taking them off!
     
  6. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    Ok at this point I'm just going to take them off!
     
  7. Pennings Garden

    Pennings Garden Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 242

    Our tracks have rubber inlays in them so they would not do any damage to the pavement, they just make for a very uncomfertable ride...
     
  8. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    I'm just going to take them off after this project is complete
     
  9. Pennings Garden

    Pennings Garden Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 242

    I know why you are asking they are a B**h to put on. My trailer is not wide enough to put the machine on with the tracks on as I have axle extensions on my bobcat so I have to put the tracks on on-side, that's why we almost never use them...
     
  10. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Take the tracks off for sure.

    It gets alot easier after you do them a few times.

    I can take mine off in a few minutes and put them back on in under 20.
     
  11. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172


    That doesn't sound like much fun. Can you at least fit the machine on w/ the wheel spacer already on?


    What he said /\/\/\/\/\

    These tracks are fairly hard on their bushings as well, I'd only run them when you need them.
     
  12. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Don't you think the savings in tires is worth it?
     
  13. smokin4by

    smokin4by Member
    from indiana
    Messages: 98

    we would remove you from our jobs if you tried to use metal tracks on our jobs. just think what concrete would look like with a few hundred scrapes from a 8k pound loader???

    i know they are a pain to take off but just ask yourself to think " would i want to do this on my drive?" :)

    just my 2cents
     
  14. Pennings Garden

    Pennings Garden Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 242

    Yeah, the axle extenders are factory installs, the machine fits on the trailer with a half inch on each side.

    the tracks on are worth it if the machine stays onside for at-least a week of running it hard for the benefit of tire wear alone in regular landscape construction, in snow and ice the tire don't wear as fast anyway so I don't think it is worth the rough ride.

    even a factory track machine is not comfortable compared to a wheel machine...
     
  15. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    Is that a serious question or are you messin'?

    I can't say I've ever thought of it that way, but I did post swomewhere the other day that I figure $1.25 - $1.50 per machine hour in tire cost. I guess I'd have to see 2000+ hrs. out of the tracks before I saw the advantage. Thats also assuming 0 tire where in that time.

    I also see the hardest tire wear plowing in winter, followed by any other pavement work obviously. I don't worry about tire wear in soil, which is the only realistic place the tracks can be used anyhow.

    esides, any given week in summer, that machine may be on 4-5 different jobs, some dirt, but mostly at least some pavement. That alone makes it a PITA to keep them on for US.
     
  16. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    Well, I guess my tire wear may be a whole lot different than you guys?

    BTW Scott, are your next set of tires gonna say "Bobcat" on them? :laughing:
     
  17. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    I couldn't be more serious.

    I have over 1500 hours on my tracks and have only replaced a handful of bushings that showed some wear when they were out anyway. I would have to think I have saved at least one set of tires besides all of the other benefits of running them.
     
  18. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    The set I have now are Bobcat. :waving:
     
  19. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    Sounds like it works for you & Pennings well.

    It just doesn't work into the logistics of the work I do. Don't get me wrong though, there are times I can't go w/o them.

    What tires & what tracks?
     
  20. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Recaps and Loegering