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Steel edge on a pusher?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by NEWLAWNS, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. NEWLAWNS

    NEWLAWNS Junior Member
    Messages: 25

    We had a couple people tell us we should put a steel edge on our Snow Bully pushers. They come with a rubber edge.

    I was wondering what you guys out in Buffalo or wherever are running.
     
  2. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 327

    We have rubber on our 16' scoop doggs a metal edge will get caught on manholes, catch basins and so on.

    I imagine it will hit pretty hard if your moving along.

    Metal edges are also pretty expensive.

    A box pusher has no trip springs so if it catches your going to feel it.
     
  3. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Actually, there are a few pusher box mfg with trip springs and steel edges. There's even one with a steel edge and urethane trip edge.

    Daniels & Arctic, there may be more.
     
  4. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 327

    I didn't know that, the only ones I ever saw with trip springs when I was shopping were the power angle blades that had wings that could fold in.
     
  5. cincy snowdog

    cincy snowdog Senior Member
    Messages: 262

    hey sk hows that pusher doing,is it nice quality and stuff? does it compare to protech and stuff, i just saw that buyers is selling them a couple weeks ago.they look good.
     
  6. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    All of our pushers are steel trip. We tried rubber and it wouldn't scrap hard pack well enough. It's not a good idea to put a steel edge on without a trip, you'll either wreck the blade or what ever you hit. Sk187, steel is actually cheaper in the end. I can buy a 16 ft reversible steel cutting edge for $300 and it will last alot longer then a rubber one. Plus your end shoes on your pusher don't wear down as quick. JMO
     
  7. cincy snowdog

    cincy snowdog Senior Member
    Messages: 262

    who is making a trip edge on a pusher?
     
  8. NEWLAWNS

    NEWLAWNS Junior Member
    Messages: 25

    I wonder if I can get one for this snowbully?
     
  9. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    We have a protech IST box, the first storm I was not impressed with the "ice scraping technology", we tried adjusting the edge down a bit and it made a bif difference, is there a recomendation as to how far below the shoes the edge should ride on that kind of box????
     
  10. DUSTYCEDAR

    DUSTYCEDAR Junior Member
    from S.E.PA
    Messages: 15

    had a protec with rubber edge and dont like it however it makes a great trash can holder
     
  11. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 327

    We really only used them once so far but they did a great job and the quality is very good.

    Think metal, lots of support and I think they look better then most boxes.
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    I have 5, use them regularly, work awesome. Have for close to 10 years now. What specifically is your issue with them?

    Rhetorical question here, you don't know there are pushers out there with trip edges but you are willing to say that this brand looks better than most other brands? How many different brands have you looked at?
     
  13. cincy snowdog

    cincy snowdog Senior Member
    Messages: 262

    only saw an rcs upclose-never used one, and operate an avalanche but only rubber, never knew about the cutting edge,sorry for not being on it more...:dizzy:
     
  14. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Ours are made local Horst Welding, the side plates even trip. Friends have ran a Daniels trip for 5 years and love it. We don't like hard pack and our customers like their lots black. Rubber performs perfect 4 out 5 storms but that 1 storm makes the steel trip worth all the money. I looked at the Avalanche trip and I'm impressed by it but not sure how well the Protech would work. Trust me once you go steel trip you won't go back.
     
  15. NEWLAWNS

    NEWLAWNS Junior Member
    Messages: 25

    Where exactly is local?

    Got any links? I would like to have them made for our pushers but we are in the Albany, NY area.
     
  16. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    We converted some of our rubber edges over to steel edge trip but it was time consuming and the trip didn't work as well as the manufacted ones. The Horst blades aren't near as heavy as a Protech but with the spring loaded side plated you can push clean over a curb without damage. There website sucks, but here is a link. Most farm equipment dealers carry there stuff and it's reasonably priced.
    http://horstwelding.com/snow_items.php?id=95
    http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=51119&highlight=Horst+blades
    http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=49761&highlight=Horst+blades

    I'm not saying they are the best blade out there but I've tried alot of pushers and large power angle blades and I have found that these suit us very well. I think I should start selling them and advertise on here.
     
  17. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 327


    Well when i purchased mine from cat they had protech and rcs (left from last year). They loaned me a protech and rcs while my scoop doggs were being made. I also checked out the boxes at JDE.

    We had 1 time out with both of those and just my preference was the buyers scoop dogg.

    I also stop and look at other pushers when I see them around, its all just opinion.
     
  18. Little Jon

    Little Jon Senior Member
    from Buffalo
    Messages: 139

    We are in Buffalo and have 8 boxes, all protech, all rubber. We are more than happy with them, If we were to go to steel, I think we would try the protech switchback, the one with rubber on one side and steel on the other.
     
  19. SNOWLORD

    SNOWLORD Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 610

    Jddave

    JDDAVE i looked at your pics nice i like the MX here is what we have found with tractors over the years pros-good trannys, fast wheel speed good shifting (especially with the newer stuff) cheaper to buy, cons- when your box is full very hard to turn front wheels just seem to spin (can work back brakes individually to help some) , traction seems to be an issue ( you can never add to much weight to a tractor), you cant stack snow very well like the setup on your big MX not much height. I do like the look of that plow!!
    ONe question I have is why the duals we have found that we get better traction without them when pushing snow and tire filled with fluid?
    Definately not trying to start anything here just chewing the fat a bit