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Square foot pricing

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Racer28s, Aug 13, 2010.

  1. Racer28s

    Racer28s Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Is there any way to bid propertys by square foot for both plowing and salting, it would make it much easier for bidding purposes
  2. dayexco

    dayexco Senior Member
    Messages: 312

    i would think you could bid them just about anyway you want?
  3. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    In my opinion - Not really, there are just too many variables. Two lots of the same square footage could be so different that one could be worth 2-3 times the other. But, hey, if that's what you want to do, try something like this - An average operator using a 3/4 ton pickup and 8' plow will plow an acre per hour. I've seen the average of $125/hr for using an 8' straight blade. If I remember right, there's 43,560 sq ft per acre, so:

    $125 / 43560 = 0.002867 sq ft

    Now that means that my 500' x 8' driveway would be $11.47 which is ridiculous. Even if it didn't have a hill, it'd be at least $40 - $50.

    This isn't even considering equipment like pushers and skid steers.

    As far as salt, how would you use the sq ft method to account for different requirements for sunny, shaded or north vs south facing areas?
  4. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    I can't really see it for plowing too many variables, but for salt a good guideline is .5 tons per acre, and I say guideline because of the things Mick mentioned......
  5. Brant'sLawnCare

    Brant'sLawnCare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,748

    I don't think that is a good way to do it. When I bid on plowing or mowing, I measure out the area so I have an "idea" of what the size is. I also look at how long it should take to do the job. That is how I figure my price.
  6. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    I use my thumb it hasn't lied yet to me.
  7. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    I use this Thumb for Bigger Lots.....:waving:
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2010
  8. viper881

    viper881 Senior Member
    Messages: 450

    Start with smaller lots in your area for bidding. Stay with stuff that you think will take less than one hour so you can have a few different places to plow, and if you under bid one you can make it up on a different one.
  9. redman6565

    redman6565 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,411

    and better yet, SF pricing doesn't include parking lot obsticles, like light poles, handicap parking areas, islands, etc. all which take up time and can make the difference between a 2 hour job or a 3 hour job.
  10. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,954

    I bid every lot based on square footage, and then take into account estimated efficiency of plowing based on size/obstructions/etc. how else do you do it? "ahhh shoot this'll take turdy minutes?"
  11. redman6565

    redman6565 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,411

    i use square footage to grasp the size, because not every parking is the same shape, and some are deceiving, but I don't advertise or bid that I plow $.25 per SF or anything like that.
  12. viper881

    viper881 Senior Member
    Messages: 450

    .25per SF would be heaven
  13. nhmower

    nhmower Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    At $.25 a sq. ft it would be almost $11,000.00 for an acre lot, hell at that rate I could probably retire after one season.
  14. redman6565

    redman6565 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,411

    guys...lets grasp that that was an arbitrary number. i do not get .25 per SF, wish i could, but i don't think there is a single market that would accomodate figures like that.