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Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by jvm81, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. jvm81

    jvm81 Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 381

    Guys - tell me what is the best pick up mounted speader?

    Poly / stainless?

    Engine / electrical

    Most lots are small to medium in size and reason for looking is we do alot of snow removal but never invested in a spreader. I have to call the competitor to snad my lots. He charges $75 / load. He has a stainless steel spreader and all we use in my area is sand.
  2. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    everything about the spreader models is debatable. at $75 per load, it might be better to have the sub spread your sand?? your could make several $$ per load and not have to invest $$$ in a truck,driver, gas, and $3-5k spreader.
  3. jvm81

    jvm81 Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 381

    Sub man is also head of a small gravel pit that mines mostly fill sand which is what he uses.

    Its just that he has many accounts that he does and when my customers call - Obviously I want to serve them as soon as possible - not wait for 1/2 day for him to show up.

    In my area some guys claim they make more sanding than plowing??
  4. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 27,866

    There's alot of guys in alot of areas that claim they make more money salting / sanding than plowing. It all depends on what type of accounts / agreements you have.
  5. northernsweeper

    northernsweeper Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    If you plan on using sand,that is going to eliminate a lot of the cheaper tailgate spreaders,as most will not spread it.If your going to go bulk salt you will need a place to store it and way to load it.I would talk to your sand guy and see if you can't get him to lots you need sanded a little sooner...You can't beat the price he is charging..
  6. drumbo

    drumbo Member
    Messages: 44

    I think the solution is easy. Tell him that when he gets your jobs done in a timely (urgent) manner, you will pay him $85-$95 per load...a little green goes a long way...and speaks everybody's language.

    Maybe have a graduated scale...priority jobs $95...if he is behind, keep reducing his "bonus" until he bottoms out at the $75/load price...I bet he picks your accounts first.
  7. jvm81

    jvm81 Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 381

    I have tried the bonus line with him last year and he was all for that but guess what - I was last on the list. We kinda clash once in a while with our accounts and his. His are bigger cuz he has a few Cat loaders with protech pushers and now he just bought a protech for his skid.
  8. xtreem3d

    xtreem3d PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,547

    i personally find it a little uncomfortable counting on someone else when my business is at stake...unless you just don't have any choice
  9. jvm81

    jvm81 Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 381

    etreemd3 - exactly - it is my biz but just hestaite to go out and buy a 4K item for just my clients. I am leaning towards it but not 100% sure at this time.
  10. ppease

    ppease Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 55

    I just purchased a Fisher Polycaster with electric motor, to go with the new 8.6 XtremeV SS. This is my first year plowing commercial for myself. I plowed for another operator for the last two years, plus a few driveways with my own truck. His gas spreader never worked right (always hand start, choke & throttle problems) and is really rusty and looks awful. I agree with others that depending on others is not good, especially for business like banks or schools. I have both this year. I have another friend that said he would sand, but hasn't returned calls. And we don't have any snow yet.....I trusted my dealer that the Polycaster will work well. I hope to do enough sanding to pay for the unit this year.
  11. wahlturfcare

    wahlturfcare Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    i have a hydraulic swenson v box in my 1 ton and a buyers tailgate spreader that both work great for using with sand. I used to sub it out, but it is alot easier doing it yourself and will pay off in no time. I prefer buying used spreaders and most of them will last forever for sometimes less than half the price of new.
    Last year for i did make more in sanding than i did plowing because of the light snows and ice storms we had. it good insurance to have one for the light winters we've been getting.