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SnowEx Undertailgate spreader

Discussion in 'SnowEx Products' started by ff610, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    Has anyone seen the new SnowEx under tailgate spreader? I saw it at the SIMA symposium last month, but I can't seem to find out any other information on it, and no dealers I've talked to have information either. Looked pretty nice, and slightly cheaper than the SP2400. SnowEx what do ya know??
     
  2. Pristine PM ltd

    Pristine PM ltd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,794

    I know someone that has one. He said that to compare it to a hydro system isn't fair, it isn't as good as a hydro, but still works decent. Spread is ok, but not as far as hydro, and salt has to be clump free, it does stop easily.
     
  3. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    Does he have the electric replacement tailgate SP2400 you talking about? The one I'm asking about is a brand new model, and the snow-ex reps said it wasn't out yet as of last month. It's not even on their website yet. It's actually a under tailgate not a replacement tailgate, but looks very similar in design. That is good to know about the replacement tailgate. I'm looking at buying one of them too, and that's my concern. I have a hydro under tailgate Monroe on my other truck and love it! I just can't see spending the money to add central hydro's just for a salt spreader.
     
  4. Pristine PM ltd

    Pristine PM ltd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,794

    yep, sorry, replacement. Didn't catch that in your first post.
     
  5. SnowEx Products

    SnowEx Products Sponsor
    Messages: 118

    Our electric-powered under-tailgate spreader (model SP-2200) will be available by mid- to late-September. Hopefully you can hold out until then!

    SP-2200.jpg
     
  6. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    I like!! Now hurry them up!
     
  7. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    I got one ordered from one of the fine dealers on this site! Thanks for the information.
     
  8. SnowEx Products

    SnowEx Products Sponsor
    Messages: 118

    You’re welcome! Let us know how it works for you when you put it to action this winter.
     
  9. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    im considering purchasing 1 of these

    i have a few requests, is it possible to get a few more close up pictures. dealer here doesnt have one in stock, and its hard to tell how well its constructed by yoru pics..dont get me wrong im not calling yoru product weak, but just making sure its on the same level as a stainless spreader and could take a minor hit

    also, i owned one of the first v pro 8000 models, i sold it two years after i bought it, i fet the delivery rate was slow, it would jam up ALL the time, if the slat was wet hardly any would come out. i know there was a second vibrator addition (which mine didnt have) and an updated controller with auto reverse?

    can you please explain the difference in the elctrical and "Drive train" that might be both the same and different.

    we spent a good deal of money for this truck, and i was thinking of central hydro...but electric is an option, im worried about the tourqe and jams.

    also actual owners of the VP 2400 please chime in, im sure that unit is similar to proformance
     
  10. SnowEx Products

    SnowEx Products Sponsor
    Messages: 118

    Here are some other pictures we have of the SP-2200.

    Although we’ve had some happy customers with the SP-8000, we realize there were some flow issues with it. Therefore, we replaced this unit with the SP-7550 and improved the flow on all our products since then. And the SP-2200 controller does come with the auto reverse feature.

    Compared with the 8000, the 2200 has a heavier duty transmission to handle the weight of material. It also has a larger, more efficient electric motor designed to provide adequate torque.

    We do offer the SP-2200-H hydraulic-powered version. Hydraulics will naturally give you more torque than an electric motor, but then you have the added cost of installing a central hydro. You don’t get to use the variable speed controller with auto reverse feature on hydraulic spreaders, either.

    We’ve heard many success stories of contractors who have used the electric-powered SP-2400. One of our favorites is from a guy in Canada who depended on his electric-powered SP-2400 to work every day and night, so he wouldn’t lose a high-maintenance account. In fact, he ran up to 30 to 40 tons per night through the 2400 and never had any problems. We hope you can experience the same success with a 2200!

    As always, feel free to call our customer service line at 1-800 SALTERS if you’d like to discuss anything else over the phone.

    SP2200_1.jpg

    SP2200_2.jpg
     
  11. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    thank you,

    2 comments, - 1 it apears to me that there is a REALLY big desing flaw with your spreader. The plastic on the back side of the lid? one of the greatest benifits about using an undertail gate salter, is that the dump bed can still be used for other mateirals when not salting, simpy close the spreader lid and make the dump tail gate hige from the top. in your set up, i see the metal lid, but am a little worried about the pastic that is aft of the lid? is there no metal on top of it for other materials to slide off of? how about the thickness of the lid, and other metal? can i load my truck with 100 lb granit boulders and dump those over the top of your spreader?

    no stainless model? there is alot of metal on that unit. Just wondering, i would think that adding the plastic adds cost. so since there is so much metal, did you guys ever consider having a full metal spreader with no plastic

    any idea abut that tourqe? numbers would be nice, just how much more tourque does it have than the orginal 8000 model? anyone know how much a dirrect hydro drive auger would have?
     
  12. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    also if the dump box is higed at the rear most point, and the box is raised to approx 45 degree angle, what is the distance from the ground do the lowest point on the spinner motor?

    can the spinner motor be dragged across the ground or bump the ground while driving, and "take the hit"?
     
  13. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    did you get yours?
     
  14. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    also pictures of the hidged clean out adn auger area would be helpful
     
  15. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    Yeah been reading up on here. Mine should be done for pictures on Monday. Had a shop install it cause been so busy. I'll post pictures as soon as I can. As far as dumping product over it I wouldn't worry about it. It appears to be built very strong and I'm pretty excited to use it. Feel free to call me if you have any questions. 563-529-2562 Ryan
     
  16. SnowEx Products

    SnowEx Products Sponsor
    Messages: 118

    The hinged steel plate is made of thick gauge powder-coated steel, and we feel that it will hold up as well as any other unit on the market. Also, the polyethylene is extremely durable, and we’ve tested it with all types of materials. The poly design has performed well for quite a few years, so we continue to use what works.

    Next, the electric motor of the 8000 doesn’t compare to the 2200. The 8000 had a worm gear 90-degree transmission. The 2000 has a ½ horsepower motor that goes into an 80:1 high-efficiency helical gear transmission.

    It’s hard to say what the lowest point to the ground will be since we don’t know exactly where your dump box is hinged. Of course, the spinner will get close to the ground if your box is at 45 degrees, but we ‘re positive that you’ll find SnowEx spreaders to be as durable as other units on the market.
     
  17. ff610

    ff610 Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    OK, finally got my new Snow Ex SP2200 installed. We were going to install it ourselves, but with time constraints and my mechanic on vacation I just took it to my local Snow Ex dealer. Well I'll start from the top. I called and they said it would be 300-400 ballpark to install. Well a week and a half later, I walked out of there paying 900 bucks! Dealer told me that they had a problem with gap between the bed and the spreader. They contacted Snow Ex, and they were told that there is problem with only one dump body that they know of. Of course it was mine. I have a Rugby dump, and I thought Rugby was one of the more common ones out there... So after staring at my truck, and talking with factory reps, they decided they would have to have a special plate made to cover the gap. A 400-500 plate to be exact! Had I known prior to this I could have made it myself for less then 100 bucks but I told them to just get my truck done and didn't even think it would be so much more. Next thing I'm told when the truck is picked up is, the steel rod attaching the bottom of the spinner to help stabilize it needs to disconnected before tilting the dump because it was not engineered to move with the dump like my other under-tailgate spreaders. I can assure you, if I don't just leave it off and swing freely all the time, it will get damaged-guaranteed!

    I do want to be clear, none of this is judgment of how the spreader performs, as I'm now keeping my fingers crossed! I just am very disappointed in the outcome. I even did my homework talking to several people that own Snow Ex, several dealers, and even talked to Snow Ex reps including who I believe heads up engineering when they were at the SIMA symposium in Rhode Island. Unfortunately my "Good Deal" has cost me more than I bargained for. In my opinion if they found out the application doesn't necessarily fit on something they should make a kit for it, or in my case reimburse me for the additional costs.

    I will post pictures today or tomorrow as the install does look really nice, and I will definitely be updating you all on the performance once I get to use it.
     
  18. dieseld

    dieseld Senior Member
    from 90210
    Messages: 628

    That is too bad Ryan. I feel that SnowEx has quite a ways to go in the R&D department. ALthough I just purchased my 2nd VMaxx 8500,(both are new) on a recommendation of a friend who swears by them. I met a rep at my local dealer who has given me a SD-95 sidewalk spreader to try out as a demo. I explained my trials and tribulations in the sidewalk speader area of my business and pointed out all the flaws I see in the $650.00 MSRP SD-95. He seemed to agree with my observations, but at the same time told me how Brickman just ordered hundreds of them so they must work. He did give me the demo unit to try the first storm, and decide if I want to make the (severely expensive) purchase. We will see how it does but I hope that SnowEx is smart enough to be putting this stuff to test through real world contractors like us and not just testing themselves in parking lots at their headquarters. That is how you see if a product will succeed, in my opinion. Best of luck to you, and keep this thread posted please for myself and others.
     
  19. mr.lawn works

    mr.lawn works Member
    Messages: 37

    Ryan I still have the SP2400 if interested Thanx Dan Bickel 563-212-3871
     
  20. SnowEx Products

    SnowEx Products Sponsor
    Messages: 118

    I’m sorry to hear about the troubles you went through to get your SP-2200 installed. I hope you’re able to get this worked out with the reps you’ve been talking with.